Is the force of gravity affected by an object's mass?

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The discussion centers around the concept of gravity, particularly whether the force of gravity is influenced by an object's mass. Participants explore misconceptions related to gravity, the effects of gravity on different celestial bodies, and the implications of these ideas in educational contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express disbelief regarding a philosophy TA's understanding of gravity, suggesting that basic concepts should be intuitive for students.
  • There is a discussion about the gravitational force on the Moon being weaker than on Earth, with some participants speculating on the use of weighted boots to maintain a natural gait.
  • Participants present multiple-choice questions related to gravity and motion, indicating varying levels of understanding among students.
  • Some argue that an object's horizontal velocity does not affect its vertical velocity, while others challenge this claim by introducing hypothetical scenarios involving curvature of the Earth.
  • There are references to misconceptions in scientific education and the need for fundamental scientific knowledge among students.
  • The relevance of philosophical perspectives on scientific understanding is debated, with some participants questioning the usefulness of such perspectives in grasping basic physics concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; multiple competing views remain regarding the understanding of gravity and its implications in educational settings. Disagreements arise over the interpretation of gravity's effects and the adequacy of scientific education.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the limitations of educational curricula in the U.S., suggesting that foundational knowledge about gravity may not be adequately covered before college. There are also unresolved questions about the specifics of gravitational effects in different contexts.

  • #91
leroyjenkens said:
Haven't there been a few moon landings?
Let's just keep things real here.

JasonRox and everyone else is just joking around about faked Moon landings. You won't find any serious Moon hoaxers in these parts. At least, not for long.
 
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  • #93
SHOW THAT lo^3 is the volume of the cube,then lo^3*(1-v^2/c^2)^.5 is the volume viewed from a reference frame moving with uniform velocity V parallel to an edge of the cube.
 
  • #94
What does this have to do with the Moon landings?

Just use the length contraction formula to figure out the dimensions of the cube in the moving reference frame. Also, homework questions should be posted in the "Homework and Coursework" forum, not in General Discussion.
 
  • #95
Reminds me of this video



Conversion factor fail
 
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  • #96
Eigenslam said:
Reminds me of this video



Conversion factor fail


I think if you get them to acknowledge that .5 dollars is half a dollar and .5 cents is half a cent, they would be left with no option but to acknowledge .002 dollars and .002 cents aren't the same.
 
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  • #97
im not even going to take the time to read through the statements and questions, Yes, their is gravity on the moon, and that TA is the stupidest person ever. That may be politically incorrect, however its the dramatic effect intended :P
 
  • #99
Ok, an ignorant question: I understand that Newton's laws tell us that in a vacuum, two objects will fall at the same rate, regardless of mass.

But relativity says that gravity is the warping of space by mass. It would seem intuitive that something with more mass would cause more curving of space, hence greater gravitational "attraction."

Why is this not the case?
 
  • #100
Um, it is the case. If Earth were more massive, it would pull on objects with more force.
 
  • #101
ideasrule said:
Um, it is the case. If Earth were more massive, it would pull on objects with more force.

I meant the smaller objects. It would seem intuitively like since they have mass, that would produce some gravity which should slightly affect their attraction to the larger object. I know Newton's laws say this isn't the case. I was wondering why.
 
  • #102
Galteeth said:
I meant the smaller objects. It would seem intuitively like since they have mass, that would produce some gravity which should slightly affect their attraction to the larger object. I know Newton's laws say this isn't the case. I was wondering why.

No, Newton's laws don't say this isn't the case. The force of gravity is directly proportional to an object's mass. An object's inertia, it's ability to resist that force, is also directly proportional to its mass.

You're mixing "attraction", which implies the strength of the force, and "acceleration" which is what's left over once you account for an object's ability to resist the force of gravity.
 

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