Is the Kinetic Energy of Water at 0°C Greater Than Ice at 0°C?

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The average kinetic energy of water at 0 °C is greater than that of ice at the same temperature due to the energy dynamics involved in phase changes. When ice melts, energy is added to break the bonds between molecules, which increases potential energy before it can contribute to kinetic energy. The confusion arises from the relationship between temperature, kinetic energy, and potential energy, particularly during the latent heat of fusion process. Understanding these concepts clarifies that while temperature remains constant, the kinetic energy of water surpasses that of ice.

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The average kinetic energy of water at 0 °C is __________ the average kinetic energy of ice at 0 °C.

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I said that it is greater than because when ice melts, energy is added to break the potential energy (bonds). I also know that average kinetic energy is directly linked to temperature so if they are at the same temperature, the average kinetic energy should be the same. The thing that is confusing me is that when the latent heat of fusion is applied to the ice, it breaks the bonds so it releases the potential energy so shouldn't the kinetic energy of water be higher than ice?

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TT0 said:
I said that it is greater than because when ice melts, energy is added to break the potential energy (bonds).
Isn't that adding potential energy?

When a thermometer measures temperature, what is it actually responding to?
 
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It is responding to the kinetic energy, but when the latent heat of fusion is applied, doesn't it break the bonds so therefore the potential energy would decrease? I am pretty sure this is wrong but I don't understand why. For example I think water has a lot of potential energy in its bonds and this potential energy is lost when it turns into gas because the bonds are broken. The potential energy is transferred into something which I am not sure of. Please help, thanks!
 
TT0 said:
It is responding to the kinetic energy, but when the latent heat of fusion is applied, doesn't it break the bonds so therefore the potential energy would decrease? I am pretty sure this is wrong but I don't understand why. For example I think water has a lot of potential energy in its bonds and this potential energy is lost when it turns into gas because the bonds are broken. The potential energy is transferred into something which I am not sure of. Please help, thanks!
You have the changes in PE backwards. To break a bond you have to inject energy, just as you have to supply energy to send a rocket up, overcoming the attraction of the earth. The PE increases.
 
I see thanks!
 

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