Is the Mass of an Atom Equivalent to Its Energy?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between mass and energy at the atomic level, questioning whether the mass of an object is equivalent to its energy due to atomic motion. Participants explore the implications of stopping particles, like electrons and neutrons, from moving, suggesting that if this were possible, they might lose mass and cease to exist. The conversation also touches on the nature of photons, with some proposing that everything could be fundamentally composed of photons, which could carry energy and potentially have mass. The idea that energy loss from particles, such as electrons emitting photons, results in a decrease in mass is debated, raising questions about the conservation of energy and the behavior of massless particles. Overall, the thread highlights the complexities of understanding mass-energy equivalence and the fundamental nature of particles.
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Owen,

I am working on a new hypothesis that there are two kinds of mass. The potential mass and the kinetic mass. The potential mass is the same as inertial mass and gravitational mass. potential mass is a mass to resist motion. The kinetic mass is a mass to resist rest. Potential mass wants to stay put while kinetic mass wants to keep moving.

With this hypothesis, we can have another interpretation why the photon can have no potential mass and why the fermions can have no kinetic mass. When a fermion loses energy, it loses kinetic mass but gains potential mass
such that the total mass is conserved:

Total mass = potential mass + kinetic mass

Kinetic mass is another quantized form of energy.

When energy is quantized, the quantization process gives two forms of topologies. One topology for potential mass and one for kinetic mass.

What is actually being quantized is the square of energy. The vector form is:

Enery^2 = r_i \times F_i \cdot r_j \times F_j
 
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AWolf said:
I think the humble little photon has more to do with particles than it's being credited with.
When electrons jump shelves, what's involved - photons.
When dealing with electromagnetic fields, what's involved - photons.
Heat transfer is infrared radiation - photons.
There may be theories, but I've not seen anything concrete.
You may take a look here:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=7611
 

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