News Is the Pope Embracing the Big Bang Theory?

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The discussion centers on the evolving stance of the Catholic Church regarding scientific theories, particularly the Big Bang, and its implications for faith. Participants express a mix of skepticism and acknowledgment of the Church's gradual acceptance of scientific evidence, contrasting it with historical dogmatism. There is criticism of the Pope's comments linking atheism to evil and the Church's past positions on issues like evolution and homosexuality. The dialogue highlights the tension between faith and science, with some arguing that the Church's infallibility claims hinder genuine understanding. Others point out that both religious and scientific communities can exhibit dogmatism. The conversation also touches on the broader societal implications of religious authority and the need for individuals to question established beliefs. Overall, the thread reflects a complex interplay of faith, science, and the evolving nature of religious doctrine.
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Physics-Learner said:
the catholic church, like any big organization, does whatever it needs to do in order to survive. big organizations do not exist for the betterment of their clients.

if god exists, the catholic church has no more understanding of god than anyone else does.

the catholic church changes its mind about a lot of things. if it really had a connection to god, it would not need to change its mind.

the sadness that i see is that there are so many brainwashed catholics, who simply go along with whatever the church says. if the church says something is true, then catholics must believe it is true, or be told they are sinning and arent good catholics, etc.

then when the church changes its mind, the people are also supposed to change their mind. what would have been a sin yesterday, is now a sin today for just the opposite reason.

when i was a kid, catholics were still being taught that only catholics could get to heaven. while pope john changed that in the early 60s, it did not trickle down to the various priests and nuns at the individual churches instantaneously.

i finally wised up, and realized that the catholic church has no connection with god.

I agree with everything except that the catholic church, much like Bernie Madoff or the Enron psychopaths, are less doing what they must to survive, and are more like someone with Prader-Willy! The phrase, "enough is enough", is probably a shooting offense in the Vatican... :-p
 
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  • #52
chiro said:
Its sad that many people look up to authority figures like this. It happens everywhere whether they are priests, scientists, celebrities, talk show hosts: it makes me sick.

It takes a lot of bravery to stand up to this sort of rubbish and its a pity that people are afraid to stand up and question out loudly what they are being told.

The moment that people became convinced that some among us are gods over us mere mortals caused the huge downfall of our civilization.

bolded: Errr... you have that backwards... god-kings came first... check your Mesopotemian history... not that I'm arguing with anything else you've said, because I'm not.
 
  • #53
Well, I'm convinced...

What of, I remain uncertain, so rock on.
 
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