Is the Real Number Line Actually Infinite?

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The discussion centers on the paradox of the real number line's infinitude, particularly the claim that if there are infinitely many real numbers between 0 and 1, then the line must have zero length due to the concept of "infinity times zero." Participants clarify that arithmetic involving infinite values is invalid, as infinity is not a real number and leads to indeterminate forms such as ∞·0, ∞/∞, and 0/0. The false premise lies in misapplying arithmetic operations to infinite quantities, which are better understood through calculus and limits.

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Hi guys,

Here is a little puzzle I have been wondering about. I can't solve it, perhaps you can help.

We know there are infinitely many real numbers on the number line. Indeed, already between 0 and 1 there are infinitely many real numbers. So if a real number is a point on the number line, there must be infinitely many points between 0 and 1. This is only possible if the points have zero extension. Now, infinity times zero is still zero. So the number line must have zero length! This is obviously absurd. But where is the false premiss?

Source: Yanofsky, The Outer Limits of Reason.
 
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Stoney Pete said:
Now, infinity times zero is still zero
Why? Infinity is not even a real number. How do you define multiplication on a set that both contains infinity and zero?
 
Stoney Pete said:
Hi guys,

Here is a little puzzle I have been wondering about. I can't solve it, perhaps you can help.

We know there are infinitely many real numbers on the number line. Indeed, already between 0 and 1 there are infinitely many real numbers. So if a real number is a point on the number line, there must be infinitely many points between 0 and 1. This is only possible if the points have zero extension. Now, infinity times zero is still zero.
No. You can't use arithmetic with infinite values. Infinity times zero is one of several so-called indeterminate forms, such as ##[\infty \cdot 0]##, ##[\infty/\infty]##, ##[0 / 0]##and ##[\infty - \infty]##. They are usually written inside brackets to indicate that they aren't actually numbers.

Indeterminate forms typically show up in limits in calculus
Stoney Pete said:
So the number line must have zero length! This is obviously absurd. But where is the false premiss?

Source: Yanofsky, The Outer Limits of Reason.
 

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