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If you have any proof at all that GWB was not A.W.O.L. during 1972-73, you may be eligible for a $2000 reward.What shady military record? I think I would know about anything shady
Not according to the article.Originally posted by schwarzchildradius
I did. The vast majority of valuable stuff is still missing...
Here's the part you wish to emphasize:Tony Wilkinson, of the University of Chicago's Oriental Institute, said looting had occurred at the Mosul Museum, where thieves tried to hack a relief sculpture from the wall. Looters also damaged Ninevah, the ancient capital of the Assyrian empire, he said, but soldiers were now protecting Nimrud, site of ancient royal tombs...
But other areas such as Larsa had suffered heavy looting, she said, and there is a thriving trade in stolen antiquities.
She likened this trade to the drug trade, saying it is driven by wealthy people in America, Europe and Japan who want to purchase these ancient items.
The final article:McGuire Gibson, professor at the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago, said that while the losses from the Baghdad Museum turned out to be less than originally feared, that museum has lost 33 major items and more than 1,000 other pieces.
...Although they suspect additional pieces may have been stolen, they declined to speculate on the scope of the additional uncatalogued items that may have been looted...Attorney General John Ashcroft, who led the group, vowed to help the global effort to recover missing items, but did not mention any numbers or refer to the scope of the Baghdad museum thefts.
Thats more than TWO ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE more missing or destroyed items than is currently believed.The museum's deputy director said looters had taken or destroyed 170,000 items of antiquity dating back thousands of years.
Although many items were shipped to Baghdad in anticipation.The only things they didn't steal were objects too big and heavy to lift.
Mosul has by far the most important museum outside Baghdad, and initially it was feared that it too had been very badly looted in the last days of the war. But in a report from Mosul for Archaeology Magazine (July-August), Roger Atwood says that most of the important objects had been sent to Baghdad for safekeeping, some leaving only three days before the bombing. It is believed that these 5,500 objects are all safe.
The Warka Vase, the greatest loss from the National Museum in Baghdad, has been recovered. Three men unexpectedly turned up at the museum on 12 June, with the sacred vessel of 3200 BC on the back seat of their car.
The storeroom was in a state of complete chaos, with unrecorded objects littering the floor. Museum director Nawala Al-Mutwalli admitted that it had been left in this condition before the war by her staff - and the scene was not the result of looting.
Ding, ding. Yep.Originally posted by Dissident Dan
I am disappointed in the media's ability to get it right. It seems that they jump on anything that they can make a sensation of.
Originally posted by russ_watters
Ding, ding. Yep.
And so because of that, maybe I'm wrong about motive here. The Jessica Lynch story was easy to sensationalize both coming and going. Blame the error on the military. But this one can't be sensationalized in the retraction. Blame it on...the reporter? Nah. So that could be why there is the disparity.
Originally posted by Zero
The disparity in reporting lies in the fact that to retract this story would be a cool person in the military PR armor. And, after all, we cannot criticize the military, because Bush wouldn't approve.
Originally posted by schwarzchildradius
This Link provided by Dan is very important.
In any case, if a significant number of important items were found, we don't know if they are very important s/a Hammaurabi's code or not, but I think we can assume that they are NOT, because such a discovery would be reported by at least the Pentagon.
The article linked to by RW claims that pieces were discovered in a vault, but does not identify a single piece (except for in a separate article where one vase was found). Rummy can claim that he found whatever and not tell what whatever is! That's hogwash! They just want to make everybody feel good about what they're doing meanwhile US soldiers perish.
Originally posted by schwarzchildradius
That's a copy, and there is another copy in the British Museum.