Is the TOEIC Test Necessary for my Career?

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The discussion revolves around the necessity of taking the TOEIC test for career advancement, particularly in the context of an IT consulting job. Participants explore the implications of being required to take the TOEIC despite having previously achieved a higher score on the TOEFL test.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the rationale behind requiring a TOEIC test when another participant has already scored 606 on the TOEFL, suggesting it seems unnecessary.
  • Another participant expresses a willingness to take the test, viewing the potential consequences of job loss as more significant than the cost and effort involved.
  • Concerns are raised about the financial burden of taking the TOEIC test, with suggestions that the employer might assist with costs.
  • There is a mention that the TOEIC test may be preferred by companies for assessing English speaking ability, as opposed to the TOEFL, which is typically used for university applications.
  • Clarifications about the differences between TOEFL and TOEIC tests are provided, particularly regarding the assessment of speaking skills.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity and fairness of the TOEIC requirement, with no consensus reached on whether it is justified or a waste of resources.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of different English proficiency tests and their relevance to employment, highlighting the lack of clarity around employer expectations and the specific reasons for the TOEIC requirement.

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Should I take a TOEIC test ?

I used to take a Toefl paper test and scored 606, now my boss tells me to take a TOEIC test that I must score at least 420.
I think it's a waste of money and time. If my boss wants to know my English level, he might offer a thorough test of multiple choice.

He told me that I will be fired if I wouldn't hand in my certificate!
By the way I am working for a IT consulting service provider in my area.

Thanks
 
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It seems strange to me to make you re-take something and get "at least" 420 when you've already gotten a 606, but maybe I'm missing some information here. Seems like your choices are to get fired or take the test, no?

Sometimes you have to do really nonsensical things to keep a job.

-DaveKA
 
I'll just take the test. Getting fired or quitting over something like this is silly.
 
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kramer733 said:
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This post is baffling. What does that have to do with anything?
 
Krismosy said:
He told me that I will be fired if I wouldn't hand in my certificate!
By the way I am working for a IT consulting service provider in my area.

Unfortunately sometimes you need to just bite your lip and listen to your boss. You could point out that it costs money to do - say that you would be happy to take the test but ask if they might help you with the costs.
 
Krismosy said:
Should I take a TOEIC test ?

I used to take a Toefl paper test and scored 606, now my boss tells me to take a TOEIC test that I must score at least 420.
I think it's a waste of money and time. If my boss wants to know my English level, he might offer a thorough test of multiple choice.

He told me that I will be fired if I wouldn't hand in my certificate!
By the way I am working for a IT consulting service provider in my area.

Thanks

Perhaps your company is looking for English speaking ability scores. http://www.ets.org/toeic

The paper-based TOEFL test does not cover the speaking test, the internet-based TOEFL does though. But I wonder if companies are looking at TOEFL scores, since only university applications require TOEFL.

Check the ETS site for clarifications.

Edit: The TOEIC test is considered by companies, maybe that's why your TOEFL scores weren't considered. Also, TOEIC has an English speaking assessment test.
 
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