Holographic Principle and the Description of Higher Dimensional Universes

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The discussion centers on the holographic principle, which posits that our three-dimensional universe may be represented as two-dimensional information. Recent research suggests that this principle remains relevant in addressing fundamental issues in physics, particularly in reconciling gravity with quantum mechanics. The conversation highlights the ongoing debate about the implications of describing 3D objects as 2D matrices and the challenges of representing higher-dimensional spaces with limited information. Participants express skepticism about the holographic model while acknowledging its potential to provide insights into black hole entropy and the nature of reality.

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I thought that the holographic idea had been ruled out, But this article shows that it could be ruled in again.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/03/170321110344.htm

And this new research has implications for some fundamental problems in physics. So far, the study of gravity has largely defied efforts to bring it under the umbrella of quantum mechanics, but theorists continue to look for connections. "Our classical theory of gravity relies on knowing exactly the shape or geometry of space-time," Del Maestro says, but quantum mechanics requires uncertainty about this shape. A piece of the bridge between these may be formed by this new study's contribution to the "holographic principle": the exotic contention that the entire 3-D universe might be understood as two-dimensional information -- whether a gargantuan black hole or microscopic puddle of superfluid helium.
 
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What gave you the impression that holography has been ruled out?
 
What I personally dislike about the hologram universe idea. is that while it certainly possible to describe a 3D object as a 2D matrix,
that does not lead to the conclusion that our 3D perception is somehow wrong.
You can describe any world you like really in just one dimension. as a series of binary bits.
 
^doesn't the whole black hole entropy growing with surface area thing suggest the 2d description is somehow more fundamental?
 
When you don't know the answer, nothing can be 'ruled out'. That's like showing pictures of your safari before you go. That would be a nice trick.
 
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rootone said:
You can describe any world you like really in just one dimension. as a series of binary bits.

Even with an infinite number of bits, how could you describe a world with an infinite numbers of dimensions? You would only have 1 bit for each dimension.

Let's say you can represent a 2D universe to some precision, possibly infinite. Isn't the point of the holographic principle that, with the same amount of information, you will have less precision in describing a 3D geometry?
 

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