Is there any absolute proof that photons exist?

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I mean, look this stupidity: [Mentor's note - link to crackpot site deleted]
This guy denies that light photons exist, and that we are 'magically creating it' like cyclops X-Men
This is worst than flat-earthers, I wonder If there is some evidence or is it unfalsifiable, like solipsism? Because I want to refute him
 
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Because I want to refute him
We do not discuss crackpottery here, even to refute it. Several reasons:
- If we did, we wouldn't be talking about anything else as the supply of crackpottery is apparently endless.
- It can't be refuted. Refutation depends on logical fact-based arguments, and crackpots are impervious to both.
- The positive and productive act of talking about what real science says generates enough work for the mentors and SAs already.
 
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Ok, sorry about that
 
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Yeah, take it from someone who used to spend way too much time bickering with creationists, conspiracy nuts, and "evo-psych" MRAs. You will never convince these people of anything, and in fact you will most likely succeed only in strengthening their convictions because of the backfire effect: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Backfire_effect

Simply put, you can't use a logical and science-based argument on someone who is not interested in using logic himself and is dead-set on the belief that the scientists are in on the conspiracy.
 
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For example, E=hv is the energy of a photon in photoelectric effect.
You can also use Compton scattering related examples .
 

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