Is this a correct application of the reduction method?

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The discussion focuses on the application of the reduction method to prove the undecidability of a positive existential theory \( T \) by interpreting another known undecidable positive existential theory \( T' \). The correct formulation involves translating each formula \( \phi' \) from the language of \( T' \) into a formula \( \phi \) in the language of \( T \), establishing that if \( T' \) proves \( \phi' \), then \( T \) must prove \( \phi \). The participants confirm that the computability of the mapping \( \phi' \mapsto \phi \) is essential, and they note that the terms "positive" and "existential" may not be critical to the construction's validity.

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Hey! :o

Is the following formulation of the reduction correct? Undecidability of an (positive) existential theory $T$ is proved often by reduction, i.e., by interpreting another (positive) existential theory $T'$, known to be undecidable, in $T$.

Each formula $\phi'$ of the language of $T'$ is translated into a formula $\phi$ of the language of $T$.

So, the (positive) existential theory $T'$ is reduced to the (positive) existential theory $T$.

Since $T'$ is undecidable, $T$ is also undecidable.
An other way to apply the reduction is the following: We suppose that the (positive) existential theory $T$ is decidable. We want to interpret $T$ in another (positive) existential theory $T'$, known to be undecidable.

Each formula $\phi$ of the language of $T$ is translated into a formula $\phi'$ of the language of $T'$.

So, the (positive) existential theory $T$ is reduced to the (positive) existential theory $T'$.

Since $T'$ is undecidable and we have supposed that $T$ is decidable, we aget a contradiction.

So, $T$ is also undecidable.

Is everything correct? Could I improve something at the formulation?
 
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I changed the formulation...

Undecidability of an (positive) existential theory $T$ is proved often by reducing an other (positive) existential theory $T'$, which is known to be undecidable,to $T$, i.e., by a mapping from the (positive) existential sentences in the language of $T'$ to the (positive) existential sentences in the language of $T$, $$\phi' \mapsto \phi$$ such that $T'$ proves $\phi'$ iff $T$ proves $\phi$.
Is the formulation now correct? Could I improve something?
 
I agree. Of course, the mapping $\phi'\mapsto\phi$ has to be computable. I also don't think that "positive" and "existential" are important here; this construction works for any fragment of $T'$ and $T$.
 
Ok... Thanks a lot! (Smile)
 

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