Is this condition for infinite roots wrong?

In summary, the conversation discusses a strange theorem and a doubtful method found in Stroud's book "Engineering mathematics." They mention that every polynomial equation has two infinite roots, and that the method of determining asymptotes may give incorrect results for high degree polynomials. There is also a discussion about projective geometry and using homogeneous coordinates to compute infinite points and asymptotes. However, there is some confusion about the author's explanation and whether or not the method is accurate. The conversation ends with someone pointing out an error in the statement and thanking everyone for their input.
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I found a strange theorem and a doubtful method in Stroud's book "Engineering mathematics":
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I think, every polynomial equation will have two infinite roots (at +infinity and -infinity).
I also think that this method of the determination of an asymptote gives wrong results if f(x) is a polynomial with a high degree.
Are the theorem and the method in this book wrong?
 
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That doesn't make sense. Every polynomial has a largest power, so every polynomial has an infinite number of infinite roots?
Multiplying the equation by yn generates additional solutions for y=0, so it is not surprising that they produce unmathematical solutions for y=0 later. Of course y=0 is a solution to an equation where you multiplied both sides by 0.
 
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This looks strange but it is kind of correct. It seems the author absolutely butchered the method though. I think what the author likes to do is to compute infinite point and asymptotes in projective geometry using homogeneous coordinates. That uses a method kind of similar to what is in the OP, but the exact explanation of the book is very doubtful.

Something of the following would be correct though: consider ##y = \frac{x+2}{3x + 2}##. Then we have
$$3xy + 2y - x - 2 = 0$$
which gives rise to a homogeneous equation
$$3xy + 2yz - xz - 2z^2=0.$$
The points at infinity correspond to ##z=0##, which yields ##x=0## or ##y=0##. This gives us a result that the function has two asymptotes: one parallel to ##x=0## and one parallel to ##y=0## which is indeed correct.
 
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Statement is strange. if [itex]a_0\ and\ a_1[/itex] are both 0, then the first term should be [itex]a_2x^{n-2}[/itex].
 
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Thank you all. Stroud's textbook is mostly very good, but I stuck on that place.
 

1. What is meant by "infinite roots" in this context?

"Infinite roots" refers to the condition where a mathematical expression or equation has an infinite number of solutions or answers.

2. Why would someone think this condition is wrong?

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3. Can you give an example of a condition for infinite roots that is considered wrong?

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