Is Time Perception Different for Travelers at Light Speed Compared to Earth?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the perception of time for travelers moving at or near the speed of light compared to observers on Earth. Participants explore the implications of time dilation, the experience of time for travelers, and the effects of relativistic speeds on time perception. The conversation includes theoretical considerations and thought experiments related to interstellar travel.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that if a ship could travel at the speed of light, it would take 4.3 years to reach Alpha Centauri from the perspective of an Earth observer, while travelers on the ship would experience much less time due to time dilation.
  • Others argue that from the traveler's perspective, the time taken to travel a distance approaches zero as their speed approaches the speed of light.
  • One participant questions the logic of time perception, suggesting that if a traveler experiences four years, it should also be four years for them, while noting that time would speed up around them.
  • Another participant clarifies that time does not speed up around the traveler; rather, time slows down for the traveler compared to those on Earth.
  • A thought experiment is presented where a traveler moves one light year away and back at the speed of light, experiencing no time passage, while two years pass on Earth, illustrating the effects of time dilation.
  • Some participants express confusion about the relationship between the traveler's experience of time and the time experienced by observers on Earth, leading to further clarification and debate.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how time is perceived by travelers at light speed versus observers on Earth. There is no consensus on the implications of these perceptions, and the discussion remains unresolved with competing interpretations of time dilation.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about the feasibility of traveling at the speed of light and the implications of relativistic physics, which are not fully resolved in the discussion.

HarryDaniels
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This has been bothering me.

As you will know, when something reaches the speed of light, its speed in time slows down. So I have been wondering, if we were to develope intersteller light speed travel and could move at the speed of light we would reach proximus Centuri in 4.3 years. But... time would proceed faster than the person going at light speed. So if it took four years for them, it would take millions of years for the people on earth. So what is the point, we would reach there faster if we were in the machine, but slower on earth.

Explain why we would do this.
And if I am right in saying this point.
 
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If the ship were really capable of traveling close to the speed of light, as "seen" by an observer on Earth, then it would take about 4.3 years to reach Alpha Centauri according to the Earthbound observer. However, because of time dilation, it would take much less time according to the travelers on the ship.
 
jtbell said:
If the ship were really capable of traveling close to the speed of light, as "seen" by an observer on Earth, then it would take about 4.3 years to reach Alpha Centauri according to the Earthbound observer. However, because of time dilation, it would take much less time according to the travelers on the ship.

To elaborate on this, you should remember that those 4.3 lightyears are from Earth's observance, not from the travelers.

from the point of a traveler as V approaches C, the time taken to travel a distance approaches 0.
 
How is that possible, when something goes at the speed of light, it would take four years in their perspective as it would take them four years as that is how fast they are going?

But I thought that if someone went at the speed of light it would take them that long, but time would speed up around them. So as they gp a year, many thousands would go by for people going at normal speed.
 
HarryDaniels said:
How is that possible, when something goes at the speed of light, it would take four years in their perspective as it would take them four years as that is how fast they are going?

But I thought that if someone went at the speed of light it would take them that long, but time would speed up around them. So as they gp a year, many thousands would go by for people going at normal speed.


If something is moving the speed of light, from its prospective it would take 0 time to travel anywhere. a Photon is often considered all points in its path at the same time.

Time does NOT speed up around them. Time slows down for them.

I'm going to get so much hate for this. What I'm supposed to say is don't even imagine it because you're technically not allowed to travel the speed of light.

lets say for a second I could

I travel 1 light year away from Earth at the speed of light. for Earth 1 year passes. For me 0 time passes. I travel 1 light year back to earth. Now in total 2 years have passed on earth. for me 0 time has passed.

edit: so if I'm 18 and my friend is 18, when I get back from my travel, he is now 20 years old. I am still 18. I feel as if no time has passed since i left. He has lived 2 years of his life.

of course, this is just a thought experiment. matter cannot travel the speed of light.
 
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HarryDaniels said:
but time would speed up around them.

Quite the opposite, actually. Consider a rocket moving close to the speed of light and some people left behind on Earth. The observers on Earth see time moving slowly for those on the rocket. Now, those aboard the rocket see the Earth moving away from them, and as such see time moving slowly for those on the Earth.

So for your example:
A) The people on the Earth record 1 year, and see only 1 day has passed on the rocket.
B) The people on the rocket record 1 year, and see only 1 day has passed back on Earth.
 

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