Hourglass on Moon: Flow Speed Compared to Earth

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the flow speed of sand in an hourglass on the Moon compared to Earth, exploring the effects of reduced gravity on granular flow and the timing mechanism of the hourglass. The scope includes conceptual reasoning and exploratory hypotheses regarding physics and material properties.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the flow of sand in an hourglass may be affected by the reduced gravity on the Moon, potentially leading to a faster flow due to less compaction of the sand.
  • Others argue that the hourglass can be considered as objects in free fall, implying that the flow rate may not be significantly different between the two environments.
  • One participant raises the question of whether the fineness of the sand and the dimensions of the hourglass affect the flow rate, suggesting that these factors could influence the outcome.
  • Another participant counters that if the properties of the hourglass and sand remain constant, the primary factor affecting flow should be the change in gravity, rather than the physical characteristics of the sand or the hourglass itself.
  • A question is posed regarding the measurement of time in the hourglass, specifically whether it is defined by the top portion being empty or the bottom portion being full.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how gravity affects the flow of sand in an hourglass, with no consensus reached on whether the flow will be faster, slower, or the same on the Moon compared to Earth.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the influence of sand grain size and hourglass dimensions on flow speed, as well as the definition of when an hour is considered complete.

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Will a sand-filled hourglass flow faster, slower, or the same on the moon as it does here on earth?
 
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welcome to PF.
What do you think, are things heavier on the moon, do they fall faster or slower?
 
Thank you for the reply, and the well wishes. I was thinking that the hourglass is timed by grains of sand passing through a narrow orifice, and only the grain passing through the orifice is in free fall. I thought that perhaps granular flow, and whether the reduced gravity might reduce the compaction of the sand which would allow a faster flow toward the orifice. We may just have to go up there and find out. Thanks.
 
I think you can consider an hourglass as just objects in free fall.
 
mgb_phys said:
welcome to PF.
What do you think, are things heavier on the moon, do they fall faster or slower?

Doesn't it also depend on how fine grained the sand is, and also the radius of the middle portion of the hour glass too?
I think the slower-hour-glass-in-moon is true only if the sand is freely falling. Here it's controlled. It would be slower - but how slow would depend on the physical properties of the sand and the hour glass.

When do you completely measure one hour? - when the top portion is empty, or when the bottom portion is full?

Thanks,
Joby
 
jobyts said:
Doesn't it also depend on how fine grained the sand is, and also the radius of the middle portion of the hour glass too?

It shouldn't, given that these properties remain constant. Since the OP said "an hourglass," we can assume the same hourglass on both the Earth and Moon. Since the change in gravity does not effect the size of the grains or the radius of the chokepoint, only the change in rate of fall should matter.
 

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