Is Unorganized Development Possible in Evolutionary Processes?

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The discussion centers on the concept of "unorganized development" within evolutionary processes, exploring whether such a phenomenon exists and how it relates to established evolutionary parameters like fitness, mutation, and elitism.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the definition of "organized" in evolutionary terms and expresses doubt about the existence of unorganized development.
  • Another participant challenges the notion of credit being given to unorganized development, suggesting that it may represent a reaction to obstacles rather than a productive evolutionary force.
  • A third participant introduces the idea of random or stochastic processes in evolution, indicating that while events are random, they may not align with common interpretations of randomness.
  • A later reply acknowledges the previous point about randomness and confirms understanding of the discussion's focus.
  • One participant suggests that the inquiry may relate to an improved version of the predator-prey model, although they express uncertainty about existing models beyond simple host-parasite interactions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence and implications of unorganized development in evolution, with no consensus reached on the definitions or roles of organization and randomness in evolutionary processes.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the definitions of "organized" and "unorganized," as well as the interpretation of randomness in evolutionary contexts. The discussion also reflects uncertainty regarding existing models of evolutionary dynamics.

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Is there "unorganized development" in an evolutionary process ?

If there weren't, how could you define something "oganized enough" to fit the evolutionary parameters (fitness, mutation, elitism, ...) ? Or that "organized" should be absolute ?

I really doubt and would like to learn how a credit is deliver to unorganized development ?


Thanks
 
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What do you mean by credit ?
Credit isnot or never I do believe as always, delivered to unorganized development, or else it is the exposition of the retarded force against the obstacles, the food net is assumed to be at equilibrium point or some species will come to extinction. If there is any of such a delivery then that would be forceful in the animal kingdom or traps to catch the food source.
 
Do you mean 'random process' sometimes called stochastic process?

Yes, the events in evolution are random, but not in the exact sense you probably use to mean random.

Here is a discussion meant for students about evolution as an emergent process:
http://beyond.asu.edu/papers/woolf.pdf

It explains what I think you are asking.
 
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Yes, that what i am talk about

thank you
 
I think you have been looking for an improved version of predator-prey model

Seriously, except simple host-parasite ones, I know of any not. OK good luck and sorry for the wrong ideas.
 

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