Is Vaporising Someone Considered Murder?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of whether vaporizing a person can be classified as murder. Participants explore the implications of vaporization on life and death, examining both physical and philosophical aspects of the topic.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question if vaporizing a person constitutes murder, given the rarity of such occurrences.
  • One participant argues that vaporization, as a process, cannot occur entirely on a human body since not all of it is liquid, suggesting that cremation is a more relevant comparison.
  • Another participant asserts that in societies familiar with the concept, vaporizing a person would be considered murder.
  • There is a discussion about the definition of death, with some participants stating that if all atoms in a body are separated, it leads to physical death, as life is defined by biological processes that cease to function.
  • A later reply emphasizes that a doctor pronounces death based on the cessation of vital functions, implying that a vaporized person would be dead since they exhibit none of these functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the classification of vaporization as murder, with some agreeing that it would be considered murder while others focus on the technicalities of the process and its implications for defining death. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of defining death and the implications of vaporization, noting that definitions may depend on societal norms and biological criteria. There is an acknowledgment of the philosophical dimensions of the topic, which some participants seek to avoid.

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1. Considering that not too many people have been vaporised, would you say it is murder?2. Because they are not alive anymore, does that necessarily mean they are dead? Forgetting religion, would you say having every single atom in your body separated would be death? Or Inanimation? I don't want to look at this on a philosophical level, but are they physically dead?
 
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Vaporisation is the transition from liquid to gas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporization

Not all of a human is liquid so you can't vaporise people, the closest you can get is cremation:
Cremation is the combustion, vaporization and oxidation of dead bodies to basic chemical compounds, such as gases, ashes and mineral fragments retaining the appearance of dry bone.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cremation

It should be quite obvious cremating living people most definitely counts as murder.
 
tommfreeman1801 said:
1. Considering that not too many people have been vaporised, would you say it is murder?

Yes, in essentially every society on Earth that knows what vaporization is, vaporizing a person would count as murder.

tommfreeman1801 said:
2. Because they are not alive anymore, does that necessarily mean they are dead? Forgetting religion, would you say having every single atom in your body separated would be death? Or Inanimation? I don't want to look at this on a philosophical level, but are they physically dead?

Yes. Keep in mind that life, as it applies to a human being and every known form of living organism, is defined as something similar to the following: Life is a characteristic distinguishing physical entities having biological processes (such as signaling and self-sustaining processes) from those that do not,[1][2] either because such functions have ceased (death), or because they lack such functions and are classified as inanimate.

Their body no longer exists, meaning every reasonable definition of 'life' no longer applies to their constituent components. They are physically dead in every respect. Thread locked before metaphysical/philosophical content creeps in.
 
Wanted to add one more point: a doctor pronounces someone dead upon the cessation of all vital bodily functions such as heartbeat, brain activity and breathing. Since a vapourised person isn't doing any of these they are obviously dead.
 

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