Is y=0 a Lost Solution in Differential Equations?

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The discussion centers on the importance of recognizing y=0 as a valid solution in differential equations, particularly when it is overlooked due to division by y. The example provided involves the ordinary differential equation (ODE) \(\frac{dy}{dx} - y = e^{2x}y^{3}\), solved using Bernoulli's method, resulting in \(y=\sqrt{\frac{2}{-e^{2x} + Ce^{-2x}}}\). The participants emphasize the necessity of checking for lost solutions, as demonstrated by substituting y=0 back into the original equation, confirming that it satisfies the equation. This highlights the critical nature of trivial equilibrium solutions in differential equations.

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When solving a Diff. Eq. how do we know that y=0 is another solution lost when we solved it?
 
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You don't know how to check if y = 0 is a solution of a DE?
 
Whatever you divided by is potentially lost as a (when set to zero)solution of your differential equation. So for example, y2 = y*y' you divide by y to get y=y' and you know the solution of that, but since you divided both sides by y, you need to check the case when y=0, since you can't divide by y when y=0
 
Thank you for the replies. For NoMoreExams an example here: I did an ODE \frac{dy}{dx}-y=e^{2x}y^{3}

and solved it using bournulli's method to get

y=\sqrt{\frac{2}{-e^{2x} + Ce^{-2x}}}

My professor said y = 0 was lost in that solution.

So I place y = 0 in the original diff eq. to get

\frac{dy}{dx}-0=e^{2x}0^{3}

which is

\frac{dy}{dx}=0

which seems weird
 
Remember how you check solutions, LHS = RHS

Since

y = 0 \Rightarrow \frac{dy}{dx} = 0

So let's look at LHS:

\frac{dy}{dx} - y = 0 - 0 = 0

Now let's look at RHS:

e^{2x}y^{3} = e^{2x}0^{3} = 0

Since 0 = 0, we have shown that y = 0 is a solution to our DE.
 
NoMoreExams said:
y = 0 \Rightarrow \frac{dy}{dx} = 0

Wow, I can't believe I completely missed that...thanks.
 
Never ignore the trivial equilibrium soln.
They're always the hardest, since you're never really "looking hard" for them.
 

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