Jeb Bush, GOP: Time to leave Reagan behind

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The discussion centers around the Republican Party's direction and identity, particularly in relation to the legacy of Ronald Reagan. Participants explore the implications of Jeb Bush's call for the party to move beyond nostalgia and adopt new strategies, as well as the internal dynamics and differing views within the party.

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  • Jeb Bush suggests the Republican Party should abandon its nostalgia for the Reagan era and focus on forward-looking ideas to attract new supporters.
  • Some participants propose that a genuinely conservative party should emerge to replace the current Republican Party, with Independents being seen as the true heirs to Reagan's big tent.
  • Rush Limbaugh claims that Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney are embarrassed by Sarah Palin and views the listening tour as a pretext for their presidential ambitions, while asserting Palin's significance in American conservatism.

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Participants express differing views on the future of the Republican Party, with some advocating for a shift away from traditional Republican values and others defending the current leadership and its strategies. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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There are indications of internal conflict within the Republican Party regarding its identity and future direction, with various factions expressing contrasting opinions on leadership and ideology.

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Jeb Bush, GOP: Time to leave Reagan behind
Party leaders go on 'listening tour' with eyes on future

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Saturday that it's time for the Republican Party to give up its "nostalgia" for the heyday of the Reagan era and look forward, even if it means stealing the winning strategy deployed by Democrats in the 2008 election.

... "So our ideas need to be forward looking and relevant. I felt like there was a lot of nostalgia and the good old days in the [Republican] messaging. I mean, it's great, but it doesn't draw people toward your cause," Mr. Bush said.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/03/gop-listens-in-drive-to-thrive/

Now if only Americans can forget the line up of the people heading up this new Republican Party "re-branding" effort - the usual suspects; Barbour, Bush, Romney, McCain, Jindal, Cantor, Boehner, et al.

Not to mention if only America can forget Jeb has a brother.
 
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It is time for a genuinely conservative party to replace the Republicans. Let's hear it for the Independents! That's where you will find what's left of Reagan's big tent. Based on the most recent surveys, the Independents [not yet a formal party] outnumber Republicans by almost 2:1.

Let Rove et al lead the Republican party to the death it deserves. Or, maybe it could be kept alive as a very exclusive club for the die-hards.
 
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Discussing the Republican listening tour conducted by Former Governors Jeb Bush (FL) and Mitt Romney (MA), and House Minority Whip Eric Cantor, radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh said yesterday that they are “embarrassed” by Sarah Palin.

They “hate” and “despise” the Alaska governor, Limbaugh said, and the “listening tour” is nothing more than “an early campaign event” for the presidential elections of 2012.

He went on to call Palin “the most prominent and articulate voice” for American conservatism.
http://www.poligazette.com/2009/05/05/limbaugh-jeb-and-romney-hate-palin/

Go Rush go! Make the choice as clear as possible.
 

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