Just how long is the ATLAS detector?

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The discussion revolves around the length of the ATLAS detector, with participants referencing various sources that provide differing measurements. The inquiry touches on the definitions and measurements used in particle physics instrumentation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the ATLAS detector is reported as 46m long on the official ATLAS page but is cited as 44m in a referenced paper.
  • Another participant suggests that the discrepancy may arise from differences between the detector path length and its overall physical size.
  • A third participant challenges this explanation, implying that the difference is not due to path length versus physical size.
  • Another participant highlights that the measurement may depend on where one measures and what components are included, questioning whether to count the last sensitive element or additional structures like cables and handrails.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact length of the ATLAS detector, with multiple competing views on how to measure and define its length remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions of measurement points and the inclusion of various components in the length of the detector, which are not fully resolved in the discussion.

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A question that actually makes me laugh, but ... how long is the ATLAS Detector?
Based on the ATLAS page here: http://atlas.cern/discover/detector the detector is 46m long.
Based on references like here: http://arxiv.org/pdf/0910.3081.pdf the detector is 44m long.
I wouldn't have asked this if I didn't read in my text that ATLAS is 46m long but saw in my figure [taken from the above reference, but pretty much distributed around ] that it was 44m.
I wonder who is going to come and say "let's say 45m"
 
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Probably just a difference between the detector path length and the overall physical size?
 
Hmm, no that can't be it...

https://inspirehep.net/record/878496/files/figures_AtlasDetectorLabelled.png
figures_AtlasDetectorLabelled.png
 
Depends on where exactly you measure, and which part of the services you count as part of the detector. Or maybe one of the numbers is just outdated.

While this is not the last muon chamber, consider this picture for example: where exactly does the detector components end? At the last sensitive element? At the last cable that goes from A to B within the detector? At the handrails?
 
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