Kronig-Penny model, how electrons get free of their atom?

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The discussion revolves around the Kronig-Penny model and its implications for understanding how electrons escape their atoms and behave in a crystal lattice. Participants explore the concepts of delocalized electrons, chemical bonding, and the relationship between barrier height and electrical conductivity in materials.

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  • One participant questions the assumption of the Kronig-Penny model that electrons are already free, seeking clarification on how electrons escape their atoms.
  • Another participant clarifies that 'free' electrons in the model refer to delocalized electrons within the crystal, not electrons in a vacuum, and emphasizes the role of barrier height in determining delocalization and material properties.
  • A later reply acknowledges a misunderstanding about the nature of atoms in the model, indicating a need for further reading on solid-state properties.
  • Another participant introduces a specific example involving hexa-boride compounds and asks how to visualize the electronic structure in relation to chemical bonding within the context of the model.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of electrons in the Kronig-Penny model, with some emphasizing delocalization and others questioning the initial assumptions about electron freedom. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of electron behavior and bonding in complex structures.

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Participants mention the dependence on barrier height and chemical bonding, indicating that the model's assumptions may not fully capture the complexities of real materials. There is also a suggestion that further reading is necessary to understand the properties of solids better.

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I am reading about this for the first time.

The Kronig-Penny model seems to assume the electrons have already escaped their atom and starts out with free electrons between potentials, then proceeds to calculate the energy eigenstates.

Did I miss something here? How do the electron's escape their atom in the first place, they don't seem to have much reason to?

In the limit that the space between atoms goes to infinity this model gives a free particle solution.
 
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Well, remember here that they're not 'free' as in an electron in vacuum far, far away from the crystal. The boundary conditions on the model eliminate that possibility.
They're 'free' as in delocalized; free to move about in the crystal - which is of course a different situation.
Of course, whether or not you have any delocalized electrons depends on the barrier height between the atoms, which is a (crude) model of chemical bonding; a chemical bond by definition being an electronic state where (some) electrons are shared between two atoms.

So your barrier height here, i.e. the nature of the bonding between the atoms, is what determines to what extent you have delocalized electrons, and ultimately, whether or not the material is an insulator or conductor.
 
alxm said:
Well, remember here that they're not 'free' as in an electron in vacuum far, far away from the crystal. The boundary conditions on the model eliminate that possibility.
They're 'free' as in delocalized; free to move about in the crystal - which is of course a different situation.
Of course, whether or not you have any delocalized electrons depends on the barrier height between the atoms, which is a (crude) model of chemical bonding; a chemical bond by definition being an electronic state where (some) electrons are shared between two atoms.

So your barrier height here, i.e. the nature of the bonding between the atoms, is what determines to what extent you have delocalized electrons, and ultimately, whether or not the material is an insulator or conductor.

Ok, I was just thinking of a bunch of atoms sitting side by side with no chemical bonding. I think I need to do more reading on the properties of solids to get a better understanding. Thanks!
 
actually, i have also bit confusion in this regards. For example in hexa-boride compound, has, an Octahedra of 6-boron atoms, which are connected to another Octahedra by covalent bond. so In the unit cell, 8-octahedra of boron are lying on corners, which are connected via single covalent bond. In the middle we can put one Rare Earth metal at the center of unit cell. let say, Ca, Sr or Ba, i.e. CaB6, or SrB6, BaB6. So now the Metal ion is surrounded by 8- Octahedra of Borons. So here how can we vissualize the electronic structure, in relation to chemical bonding.
 

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