The discussion centers around a significant class action lawsuit against Anthropic, potentially involving 7 million plaintiffs, which raises concerns about its impact on the AI industry. Participants explore the implications of copyright law as it relates to AI training and the broader consequences for both minor and major AI companies.
Participants express a range of views on the implications of the lawsuit and copyright law, with no clear consensus on the best approach or outcome. Disagreement exists regarding the balance between copyright protections and the rights of AI companies.
Participants reference various legal and historical precedents that may inform the current discussion, but these examples do not resolve the complexities of the ongoing debate about copyright in the context of AI.
AI industry groups are urging an appeals court to block what they say is the largest copyright class action ever certified. They've warned that a single lawsuit raised by three authors over Anthropic's AI training now threatens to "financially ruin" the entire AI industry if up to 7 million claimants end up joining the litigation and forcing a settlement.
Last week, Anthropic petitioned to appeal the class certification, urging the court to weigh questions that the district court judge, William Alsup, seemingly did not. Alsup allegedly failed to conduct a "rigorous analysis" of the potential class and instead based his judgment on his "50 years" of experience, Anthropic said.
If the appeals court denies the petition, Anthropic argued, the emerging company may be doomed. As Anthropic argued, it now "faces hundreds of billions of dollars in potential damages liability at trial in four months" based on a class certification rushed at "warp speed" that involves "up to seven million potential claimants, whose works span a century of publishing history," each possibly triggering a $150,000 fine.
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If the AI companies are found to be illegaly using copyright material, why shouldn't they pay? You appear to make an a priori assumption that the rights of AI companies override all else?jedishrfu said:Arc Technica published an article on the largest class action lawsuit with potentially 7 million plaintiffs against Anthropic. Should they win, the damages could have a chilling effect on the whole AI industry, killing off minor players and hobbling major ones with insurmountable debt.
Happened in Canada recently by BC Supreme court action.jedishrfu said:There are some notable examples where through eminent domain a govt takes your land citing for the greater good the needs of the people override your ownership.
Luckily, the Chinese and French have AI as well, so people can switch to Chinese or French AI providers if American AI ends. I run Mistral AI locally, which is French.jedishrfu said:Arc Technica published an article on the largest class action lawsuit with potentially 7 million plaintiffs against Anthropic. Should they win, the damages could have a chilling effect on the whole AI industry, killing off minor players and hobbling major ones with insurmountable debt.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...argest-copyright-class-action-ever-certified/