Last Three Digits of Complex Number Sum and Product Equations
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The discussion revolves around finding the last three digits of the expression $u^4+v^4+x^4+y^4+4uvxy$, given certain conditions on the complex numbers $u, v, x, y$. Participants explore various methods to approach the problem, including algebraic manipulations and Newton's identities.
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Main Points Raised
One participant outlines a method using Newton's identities to derive the quartic equation based on the sums of powers of the roots, leading to a calculation of $s_4$ and ultimately the last three digits of the desired expression.
Another participant mentions a brute force approach, suggesting a division of the expression and manipulation of the remainder to find the necessary substitutions.
There are references to the values of $s_1$, $s_2$, and $s_3$ calculated from the given conditions, with one participant providing specific numerical results for these sums.
Participants express uncertainty about language proficiency, with one participant humorously acknowledging their use of an online translator.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
There is no clear consensus on a single method or solution, as participants propose different approaches and calculations. The discussion remains exploratory with multiple viewpoints presented.
Contextual Notes
Some calculations presented by participants involve complex algebraic manipulations that may depend on specific assumptions or interpretations of the problem, which are not fully resolved within the discussion.
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Let $u,v,x,y$ be complex numbers satisfying
$u+v+x+y=42$,
$uv+ux+uy+vx+vy+xy=2013$,
$u^3+v^3+x^3+y^3+uvx+uvy+uxy+vxy=1337$.
Find the last three digits of $u^4+v^4+x^4+y^4+4uvxy$.
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My method, I believe, is more or less the same as yours.
My solution:
Let $u, v, x, y$ be the roots of a quartic function and $s_n$ represents the sum of the nth powers of those roots. We are asked to evaluate $s_4-uvxy$.
We see that what we have now are
[TABLE="class: grid, width: 700"]
[TR]
[TD]$s_1$[/TD]
[TD]$s_1=42$,[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]$s_2$[/TD]
[TD]$(u+v+x+y)^2=u^2+v^2+x^2+y^2+2(uv+ux+uy+vx+vy+xy)$
By applying the values that we have gotten above into the Newton identities gives the quartic equation $f(a)=a^4-42a^3+2013a^2-45221.75a+\text{product of roots}=a^4-42a^3+2013a^2-45221.75a+uvxy$.
Pardon for my use of the language Englishman. How, I do not know it, I use a "on-line" translator and, already we know " the translations that it realizes ".(Rofl)
Regards.
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mente oscura said:
Pardon for my use of the language Englishman.
Your English is definitely better than my Spanish.