Launching satellites using electromagnet power

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of launching satellites using electromagnetic power, specifically through railgun technology. It is established that achieving Mach 12 is problematic due to atmospheric density, necessitating a launch from high altitudes. While theoretically possible to reach orbital speeds with a railgun, the satellite would disintegrate due to air resistance. Current technology does not support the acceleration of satellites at low altitudes using electromagnetic forces without significant thermal and structural challenges.

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Why can't we launch satellite by using electromagnet power?
 
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As with a rail gun.
The first question would be: How long is that rail gun?

Let's say that you only wanted to use the rail gun to get the rocket as far as a first stage booster would go - about Mach 12. The first problem you have is that Mach 12 is a big problem in dense air. So your gun would have to be miles high just to get the rocket into air thin enough for Mach 12 flight.
 
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CM CHAMPAK said:
Why can't we launch satellite by using electromagnet power?

The satellite needs to have a large speed to orbit the earth. Most of the accelerating to reach this speed has to be done at a high altitude where the atmosphere is very thin. A railgun that can accelerate something to orbital speed is possible, but the satellite would break up an never reach orbit because of the air resistance.
Finally, We don't have any technology to accelerate a satellite that is far away with electromagnetic forces.

If there was no atmosphere we could build a railgun at the Earth's surface, and launch a satellite to low Earth obit with only a small included rocket, to make the orbit of the satellite circular when it's at the right altitude.
 
Um, you could use such as a 'stage zero', using vacuum containment with a well-timed diaphragm at the muzzle, but then your launch emerges into 'dense' atmosphere at near-hypersonic speed.
Thermal Issues ensue...
Nearest analogy is probably the HARP project...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_HARP
 
The sudden large acceleration at lift-off could also damage equipment and definitely be lethal to any people on board. The same problem as with the cannon-fired spacecraft that appeared in 19th century science fiction if I remember correctly.
 
As an addendum , do you always have to reach the standard escape velocity ?

The standard equation is
##v=\sqrt{2gr}##
where v is the escape velocity and r is the distance (radius) from the centre of mass of the earth

This works out ≅ 11 km s-1 at the Earth's surface.

Intuitively, if one ( or the vehicle ) could instantaneously achieve 11km s-1 at the surface , would it
of necessity escape the pull of the Earth's mass (gravity) if it did not undergo ANY further acceleration?

Similarly, if one had a hypothetical rocket that had an unlimited supply -internallyproduced- of thrust ,
then could that rocket continue into space / orbit without actually achieving the so-called ESCAPE VELOCITY?
 
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Janosh89 said:
Intuitively, if one ( or the vehicle ) could instantaneously achieve 11km s-1 at the surface , would it
of necessity escape the pull of the Earth's mass (gravity) if it did not undergo ANY further acceleration?
One assumes that you are not counting the Earth's gravity as a "further acceleration". Then yes, a 11 km/sec velocity at the surface in any direction yields a trajectory that will escape to infinity, barring any other acceleration. Typically, that other acceleration will be present either by smacking head-on into the Earth's surface (if you aim downward) or air resistance (if you aim upward).
Similarly, if one had a hypothetical rocket that had an unlimited supply -internallyproduced- of thrust ,
then could that rocket continue into space / orbit without actually achieving the so-called ESCAPE VELOCITY?
See https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...n-vehicle-escape-Earth's-gravity-well.954278/
 
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https://goo.gl/images/yDuYKT

Found this when Googling Professor Eric Laithwaite , inventor of the linear motor
[ ICU , London ] when NASA Scientists (2) visited his subsequent work on
electromagnetic rails at the University of Sussex ,Southern England
 
Janosh89 said:
As an addendum , do you always have to reach the standard escape velocity ?

Not that this changes the question much, but I thought I would mention that orbital velocity is less than escape velocity.

Also, firing a gun (ok, chemical rather than rail gun, but a similar problem) to reach orbit is not entirely science fiction. While nobody has ever fired anything into orbit, a few attempts and some progress have been made over the years. See the Wikipedia article on space guns. Mach 9 is more than a third of the way there in terms of speed, but, of course, the engineering problems are not linear with speed. Still, I certainly wouldn’t want to say it’s impossible.
 
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It was just an idea i thought and thanks for your suggestions

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