News Let's stop helping poor people, veterans, and farmers

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The discussion centers on criticisms of President Bush's administration, particularly regarding economic policies and veteran healthcare. Participants express frustration over the administration's focus on "homeland security" funding while veterans may face increased medical costs, including a proposed $250 annual fee and higher prescription co-payments. Concerns are raised about the implications of charging veterans for healthcare, with fears that this could lead to further financial burdens in the future.There is also a debate about agricultural policies, specifically the price floor on crops, with suggestions that removing it could stabilize the market and reduce the need for farmer subsidies. Participants argue about the effectiveness of welfare programs and the need for economic recovery to alleviate poverty.The conversation touches on the perceived incompetence of Bush supporters and the political landscape, with some expressing a desire to shift towards libertarian voting. The discussion concludes with reflections on the state of veteran healthcare, suggesting that collaboration with civilian hospitals might be a better solution than maintaining the current VA system, which is viewed as inadequate.
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JasonRox said:
majority of Canadians agreeing with private health care

Sorry to runoff topic here but...are you sure this is true JasonRox. From my experience and opinion gathering it seems to be the opposite, with the exception of Alberta.
 
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GENIERE said:
Moonbear-I'm for it. As soon as I finish this response, I'm E-mailing Don Rumsfeld, join me.

LOL! Seriously, I've only been pulling that stuff off the top of my head. There must be things I've overlooked that would complicate the issue (one major one would be getting university administrators to go along with the plan, but as long as it's a public institution and Federal funding is used as the bargaining chip, I think they could be persuaded). Is there some reason this wouldn't work, some hidden cost I haven't considered, etc?
 
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Moonbear said:
LOL! Seriously, I've only been pulling that stuff off the top of my head. There must be things I've overlooked that would complicate the issue (one major one would be getting university administrators to go along with the plan, but as long as it's a public institution and Federal funding is used as the bargaining chip, I think they could be persuaded). Is there some reason this wouldn't work, some hidden cost I haven't considered, etc?


I did E-mail Rumsfeld. Public or private who cares? Since I'm a tech type guy, I never got past middle management in the three hospitals I worked for and was never interested in the finance side. I'm sure the bueaucrats can (falsely) find many reasons for it not working.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
:bugeye: :bugeye: :bugeye: YOU?

You could knock me over with a feather. I thought you were a liberal!
How could you? :cry:
power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Greg was a card carrying liberal. Then he started PF, started raking in the dough. Started looking at tax breaks for the wealthy. all you people who registered and paid your nominal fee are too blame.
 
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chroot said:
...Bush is almost assuredly going to be remembered as one of history's worst presidents.

Bush's entire goal was: 1) to avenge his father, which he as done, 2) serve a second term--unlike his father, which he as done, and 3) become a legacy in the history books as the best President our country has ever had, what ever it takes, at any cost. This is the method to the madness, and it's two out of three so far. Bush supporters will tell you he will achieve #3.

Most of these supporters have no idea about the topics discussed in this forum, let alone watch the news--be it as crappy as it is. How do you change the thinking of people like that? The only solace is that these people probably don't write history books.

As for subsidizing farmers, global warming is a larger concern if you ask me. Aside from believing that Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs should come first and be available to all, even if it means protectionism or subsidy, I hope farmers will diversify in anticipation of climate changes, and perhaps we should stock pile whatever we can.

In the meantime I agree we should support our troops and stop the lies.
 

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