LHS = (p+1)^2 + (p+1) = p^2 +2p +1RHS= 2^(p+1) = 2^p *2 = 2(p^2 + p)

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The discussion revolves around proving the inequality n^2 + n ≤ 2^n for all integers n≥5 using mathematical induction. Participants are exploring the structure of the proof and the necessary steps to complete it.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to establish the base case for n=5 and is seeking guidance on how to proceed with the inductive step. Some participants suggest working with the expression for n=p+1 and using the inductive hypothesis, while others question the clarity of the assumption being used.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and prompting each other to clarify their assumptions. There is no explicit consensus yet, but some productive direction is emerging as participants engage with the inductive reasoning process.

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Participants are working under the constraint that the proof must hold for all integers n≥5, and there is a focus on ensuring the inductive hypothesis is clearly stated and utilized.

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Prove by induction that n^2 + n ≤ 2^n

for all integers n≥5

How i did:

Case(1)

Suppose that n = 5

LHS = 5^2 +5 = 30

RHS = 2^5 = 32

30 ≤ 32

Ok LHS ≤ RHS

Case (2)

Suppose that's true for n=p≥5. Show that its true for n = p+1

What should i do next ? I had a memory loss here :(
 
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Just write down [itex](p+1)^2+(p+1)[/itex] and work with that expression until you see that it's [itex]\leq 2^{p+1}[/itex]. You will have to use the assumption [itex]p^2+p\leq 2^p[/itex].
 
LHS(p+1) = (p+1)^2 + p+1 = p^2 + 2p + 1 + p + 1 = p^2 +3p + 2

How can i continue ?
 
Firben said:
LHS(p+1) = (p+1)^2 + p+1 = p^2 + 2p + 1 + p + 1 = p^2 +3p + 2

How can i continue ?

Well, what's your assumption?
 
Yes, i think so
 
No, he asked "what's your assumption?", and you were supposed to answer "that the formula I want to prove for all n≥5 holds when n=p".
 
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