Linear Dependence Check: [-1, 1]

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of linear dependence and independence in the context of functions, specifically examining the functions sin(πx), cos(πx), and the constant function 1 over the interval [-1, 1]. Participants explore the definitions and implications of linear dependence as it applies to a set of functions.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the functions are linearly dependent, stating that any linear combination must equal zero.
  • Another participant clarifies that linear dependence applies to a set of vectors and questions the identification of functions as a single entity, arguing that a single non-zero function is always independent.
  • A participant seeks clarification on the specific functions being discussed, emphasizing that there is only one non-zero function in the context presented.
  • Further clarification reveals that the functions under consideration are 1, cos(πx), and sin(πx), with uncertainty expressed about the dependence between cos(πx) and sin(πx).
  • One participant challenges another for not accurately quoting the problem and reiterates that the discussion should focus on the set of three functions rather than individual functions.
  • There is a call for definitions from the textbook regarding dependent functions or vectors to clarify the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants disagree on the interpretation of linear dependence and whether the functions in question can be considered dependent or independent. There is no consensus on the definitions or the specific functions being analyzed.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion regarding the definitions of linear dependence and independence, and there are unresolved questions about the specific functions and their relationships.

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Check for Linear Dependence for: [tex]\sin \pi x[/tex] [-1, 1]

I'm thinking it's Linear Dependent. Since it says that any linear combination must be 0.

a*x + b*y = 0, a = b = 0.

So for any integer x, the value is 0. So [-1, 1] works.
 
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? "Linear Dependence" or independence applies to a set of vectors. Certainly we can think of the collection of functions over [-1, 1] as a vector space but still [itex]sin \pi x[/itex] is a single function!

Also Linear Depence of a set of vectors does NOT mean "any linear combination must be 0". Only that there exist at least one more linear combination other than the one where all coefficients are 0. In order that two functions, f and g, be dependent, there must be a and b, not both 0 so that af(x)+ bg(x)= 0 for all x.

But still, what set of functions are you talking about? A single non-zero function (vector) is always independent.
 
The question is:

Check the linear dependency of the functions sin(pi x).
 
You said "functions" but there's only one non-zero function. What kind of values can x take?
 
Err, it was part of:

1, cos(pi x), sin(pi x).

Those are the functions. 1 is linear independent, cos(pi x) and sin(pi x) I'm not sure about.
 
If you don't even know enough to quote the problem correctly, then I strongly recommend you review what "dependent" and "independent" mean! Once again, a single function (vector) is always "independent"! It makes no sense at all to say "1 is linearly independent" and, again, the problem is NOT asking about the "dependence" or "independence" of the each of those three functions. It is asking, as I suggested before, about the dependence or independence of the set of those three functions.

Now, how does your textbook define "dependent functions" or "dependent vectors"?
 
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