Liquid ocean in Uranus and Neptune

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the presence of liquid water in Uranus and Neptune, exploring whether these planets contain oceans of liquid water or other forms of water under extreme conditions. The scope includes theoretical considerations and interpretations of planetary composition.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the existence of liquid water in Uranus, suggesting it is a gas planet, while expressing uncertainty about Neptune.
  • One participant proposes that both Uranus and Neptune contain large quantities of water, but only at their cores, where it is frozen and mixed with gases due to the planets' distance from the sun.
  • Another participant asserts that there are no oceans of liquid water in the conventional sense on either planet, suggesting that any water present exists in a slurry form under extreme temperatures and pressures.
  • A participant references a source indicating that the ice mantle is not composed of conventional ice but rather a hot, dense fluid of water, ammonia, and other volatiles, sometimes referred to as a water-ammonia ocean.
  • There is a discussion about the classification of Uranus and Neptune as ice giants, noting that their bulk compositions differ significantly from gas giants like Jupiter and Saturn.
  • One participant challenges another for allegedly plagiarizing information from Wikipedia, leading to a defense of the use of the source.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence and nature of water in Uranus and Neptune, with no consensus reached regarding the presence of liquid water or the classification of the materials within these planets.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions of "oceans" in the context of these planets, the exact composition of their interiors, and the varying models that may lead to different interpretations of their mass and structure.

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Are there oceans of liquid water in Uranus and Neptune? I remember once reading that there were.
 
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There is no liquid water in Uranus because uranus is a gas planet but I am not sure about Neptune
 
Pleas let me correct myself there is a large quantity of water in both Neptune and Uranus but u cn only find them at their cores.
As both planets are far away from the sun the waters are frozen and mixed with loads of different gases.
 
There are certainly no oceans of liquid water on either planet, at least not oceans in the conventional sense. The mantle of those planets probably contains some H2O, but in a kind of slurry - it would be under extreme temperatures and pressures.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranus

The ice mantle is not in fact composed of ice in the conventional sense, but of a hot and dense fluid consisting of water, ammonia and other volatiles.[8][55] This fluid, which has a high electrical conductivity, is sometimes called a water–ammonia ocean
 
so both planets are gas planets?
 
This fluid, which has a high electrical conductivity, is sometimes called a water–ammonia ocean.[56] The bulk compositions of Uranus and Neptune are very different from those of Jupiter and Saturn, with ice dominating over gases, hence justifying their separate classification as ice giants.

The total mass of ice in Uranus's interior is not precisely known, as different figures emerge depending on the model chosen; however, it must be between 9.3 and 13.5 Earth masses.[8][54] Hydrogen and helium constitute only a small part of the total, with between 0.5 and 1.5 Earth masses.[8] The remainder of the mass (0.5 to 3.7 Earth masses) is accounted for by rocky material.[8]
 
Granpa, if you are going to plagiarize Wikipedia, it looks better if you remove the pointers to the now non-existent references.
 
if I were plagerizing it don't you think that I woud have removed them. nor would I have given the link to the article itself in post 5
 

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