Uranus and/or Neptune Lab ideas

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the search for laboratory activities or meaningful projects related to the planets Uranus and Neptune, particularly for high school astronomy students. Participants explore various ideas, constraints, and resources available for conducting such activities.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in finding existing lab activities for Uranus and Neptune, suggesting that such resources may not exist.
  • Another participant inquires about the available equipment for students, specifically whether telescopes are accessible.
  • It is noted that the lab manuals reviewed lack any activities related to Uranus or Neptune.
  • A participant mentions the Nice model, which proposes that Uranus and Neptune switched positions in the early Solar System, suggesting that simulations could be run based on this model.
  • There is a discussion about the limitations of daytime astronomy and the need for indoor activities due to constraints on taking students outside at night.
  • Suggestions include comparing the two ice giants or examining the trajectory of Voyager 2's flyby of both planets as potential projects.
  • One participant mentions the idea of using liquid nitrogen as a fun element in the lab activities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on specific lab activities, and multiple competing ideas and suggestions remain throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express various constraints, including limited equipment and the need for indoor activities. There is also a mention of the absence of specific activities in existing lab manuals.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for high school astronomy educators seeking innovative lab ideas related to Uranus and Neptune, as well as those interested in exploring the constraints of teaching astronomy in urban settings.

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I teach high school astronomy. I have been searching the interwebz for a lab or "meaningful" activity related to uranus or neptune, and have come up empty handed. I have found several lab manuals from different universities and I'm beginning to think that such a lab or activity does not exist.

Does anyone have any materials or ideas on what I could do for these two planets? even if its "higher level" stuff, id love to see it.
 
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What kind of equipment do the students have access to? Do they have access to telescopes and related equipment?

nmsurobert said:
I have found several lab manuals from different universities and I'm beginning to think that such a lab or activity does not exist.

Did those lab manuals lack activities regarding Uranus, or were they too advanced/required equipment you didn't have access too/something else?
 
Drakkith said:
What kind of equipment do the students have access to? Do they have access to telescopes and related equipment?
Did those lab manuals lack activities regarding Uranus, or were they too advanced/required equipment you didn't have access too/something else?

I have a few small telescopes but we are in the heart of the city. also, keeping them after school is going to be tough. i have about 130 astro students. everyone has a computer. i have a few computers that i could put software on if needed.

the lab manuals lack activities. not a single mention of either planet.
 
One of the most interesting new pieces of research (to me at least) about Uranus/Neptune is the Nice model:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_model
which postulates that Uranus and Neptune actually switched positions in the early Solar System (due to orbital interactions of Jupiter and Saturn), and this instability caused the late heavy bombardment of the inner planets as well as the formation of a number of features of the outer Solar System (Jupiter Trojans, resonant trans-Neptunian objects, etc). If you could get your hands on the right software, you might have the students run some--possibly simplified--simulations related to this.
 
nmsurobert said:
I have a few small telescopes but we are in the heart of the city. also, keeping them after school is going to be tough

It would be helpful if you listed the constraints you have. And, to be honest, daytime astronomy tends to be rather limited.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
It would be helpful if you listed the constraints you have. And, to be honest, daytime astronomy tends to be rather limited.

i'm looking for something to do inside.

anything done outside, at night is for a club. not for my regular 150 students lol
 
I'm sorry, I meant "It would be helpful if you listed all the constraints you have" I don't think a million-dollar project is what you are interested in. But please don't have us guess.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
I'm sorry, I meant "It would be helpful if you listed all the constraints you have" I don't think a million-dollar project is what you are interested in. But please don't have us guess.

i don't understand what your asking. All constraints? i don't know. i can't take them outside at night. i have computers that could put some software on if i needed to.

we have a day where we talk about the planet. then we have a day where we do an activity or a lab related to that planet. so far, i have something planned for each planet. something like comparing surface features. or mapping an orbit using a protractor and greatest elongation angle. for jupiter, we look at several mercator projections over some time period and come up with a velocity that the gsp is moving at.

I'm looking for something like that but with uranus or neptune. all i can find online is like coloring book activities.
 
How about having your students compare the two 'ice giants'. Have them look into the differences of these two planets. Or have them look into the trajectory of Voyager 2's journey that took it on a flyby of both planets?
 
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Drakkith said:
How about having your students compare the two 'ice giants'. Have them look into the differences of these two planets. Or have them look into the trajectory of Voyager 2's journey that took it on a flyby of both planets?

It may boil down to me doing that. Instead of having a talk about them make it a little research project.
 
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Liquid nitrogen is always fun.
 

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