Living with a 4-item Diet: Power Bars, Bagels, Tomato Juice, & Water

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The discussion centers on a proposed diet consisting solely of power bars, bagels, tomato juice, and water, highlighting their portability and nutritional benefits. While the individual feels this diet is sufficient and efficient, others caution against the lack of variety and essential nutrients, emphasizing the importance of a balanced diet. Concerns are raised about potential health risks associated with consuming a limited range of foods, including deficiencies and unhealthy fat content in some bagels. The conversation also critiques the time spent on elaborate meals, advocating for a more streamlined approach to eating in modern society. Ultimately, the need for moderation and consultation with a nutritionist is suggested for anyone considering drastic dietary changes.
  • #31
DaveC426913 said:
That is an answer I would have expected. You don't understand.

The world is a wonderful place. Embrace it with all your senses.

Sorry. I understand now. The one fifth you were referring to was taste.
 
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The base of the pyramid is composed of grains, so the obvious response that everyone I knew growing up was to eat lots of bread, pasta, etc. because it's good for you.

Why is a lot of fat bad for you? There have been cultures that subsisted mainly on fat and protein with very little vegetable matter. The Inuit come to mind.

When did humans start eating a lot of carbohydrates on a daily basis? What were they eating before this period, and have humans changed very much physiologically since then?

And why is eating on a regular schedule good for the body? How recent in human history was it even possible to do so?

Just some things to think about.

PS I just made some really awesome chicken. Cooked it in butter and olive oil with garlic and new mexican chile's. After the chicken was done I simmered down the drippings and used it for gravy. Best meal I've cooked since I moved by far =)
 
  • #33
ehrenfest said:
Changing my mind about whether I want to go into mathematics or theoretical physics is NOT the same thing as someday deciding to relish the time I spend defecating, eating, and showering.

I was referring to your claim about what you would consider to be the treasured moments in your life. You seem to think that your final moments will be spent reminiscing about physics equations.

Your treasured moments will be of experiences, and memories derived from relationships. These relationships are influenced and directed by more mundane aspects of life.
 
  • #34
Greg Freeman said:
The base of the pyramid is composed of grains, so the obvious response that everyone I knew growing up was to eat lots of bread, pasta, etc. because it's good for you.

Why is a lot of fat bad for you? There have been cultures that subsisted mainly on fat and protein with very little vegetable matter. The Inuit come to mind.

When did humans start eating a lot of carbohydrates on a daily basis? What were they eating before this period, and have humans changed very much physiologically since then?
Life expectancy was considerably shorter when subsisting on diets high in fat (then again, you'd need more energy to survive in such a cold climate). Grains, roots, berries have been in the human diet for a very long time...that's what hunter-gatherers gather.

And why is eating on a regular schedule good for the body? How recent in human history was it even possible to do so?
That's actually not so good for us, but somewhat necessitated by work schedules. It's better to eat a little when hungry rather than based on the time a clock reads.
 
  • #35
Moonbear said:
Life expectancy was considerably shorter when subsisting on diets high in fat (then again, you'd need more energy to survive in such a cold climate). Grains, roots, berries have been in the human diet for a very long time...that's what hunter-gatherers gather.


That's actually not so good for us, but somewhat necessitated by work schedules. It's better to eat a little when hungry rather than based on the time a clock reads.

Was the life expectancy short because of diet or because of other factors?

I've run across a lot of experiments supporting low carb diets (which necessarily must be high in fat content because only so much protein can be processed by the body), and other things involving ketosis.

Here's an example I found linked on another website today: http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2407/8/122

Among the most prominent metabolic alterations in cancer cells are the increase in glucose consumption and the conversion of glucose to lactic acid via the reduction of pyruvate even in the presence of oxygen. This phenomenon, known as aerobic glycolysis or the Warburg effect, may provide a rationale for therapeutic strategies that inhibit tumour growth by administration of a ketogenic diet with average protein but low in carbohydrates and high in fat enriched with omega-3 fatty acids and medium-chain triglycerides (MCT).
 
  • #36
Greg Freeman said:
I've run across a lot of experiments supporting low carb diets (which necessarily must be high in fat content because only so much protein can be processed by the body), and other things involving ketosis.

A human can process about 14 grams of alcohol per hour - at 24 hours per day and 7 calories per gram of alcohol, it's theoretically possible to get 2350 calories in alcohol per day. This is probably not an advisable long term diet.
 
  • #37
NateTG said:
A human can process about 14 grams of alcohol per hour - at 24 hours per day and 7 calories per gram of alcohol, it's theoretically possible to get 2350 calories in alcohol per day. This is probably not an advisable long term diet.

huh?
 
  • #38
Greg Freeman said:
And why is eating on a regular schedule good for the body? How recent in human history was it even possible to do so?
I've never understood why people put forth this argument. (some variation on 'humans have been managing for hundreds of thousands of years doing X')

Humans have been having a life expectancy of about 25-30 years for hundred of thousands of years too. Our ancestry makes for a really lousy benchmark.
 
  • #39
Greg Freeman said:
huh?

I meant to point out that it's possible to have a low carb - high acohol diet rather than a low carb - high fat diet.
 
  • #40
You should really enjoy food. The OP diet sounds rather narrow-minded and boring.
 

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