MHB Locus of Point R on Line $L$ for Harmonic Progression

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The discussion focuses on finding the locus of point R on line L, which passes through point B(2,5) and intersects the lines defined by the equation 2x² - 5xy + 2y² = 0 at points P and Q. The condition that distances BP, BR, and BQ are in harmonic progression leads to a series of equations that ultimately reveal the relationship between the coordinates of R and P. The derived equations show that the locus of R is represented by the line equation y = (17/10)x. The thread highlights the application of harmonic ranges and projective geometry, emphasizing their relevance in solving such geometric problems.
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Challenge Problem: A variable line $L$ passing through the point $B(2,5)$ intersects the lines $2x^2-5xy+2y^2=0$ at $P$ and $Q$. Find the locus of the point $R$ on $L$ such that distances $BP$, $BR$ and $BQ$ are in harmonic progression.
 
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sbhatnagar said:
Challenge Problem: A variable line $L$ passing through the point $B(2,5)$ intersects the lines $2x^2-5xy+2y^2=0$ at $P$ and $Q$. Find the locus of the point $R$ on $L$ such that distances $BP$, $BR$ and $BQ$ are in harmonic progression.

Hi sbhatnagar, :)

Let \(P\equiv (x_{p},2x_{p})\), \(Q\equiv (x_{q},\frac{x_{q}}{2})\) and \(R\equiv (x_{r},y_{r})\). Since $BP$, $BR$ and $BQ$ are in harmonic progression we can write,

\[\frac{1}{BR}-\frac{1}{BP}=\frac{1}{BQ}-\frac{1}{BR}\]

\[\frac{1}{\sqrt{(x_{r}-5)^2+(x_r-2)^2}}-\frac{1}{\sqrt{(2x_{p}-5)^2+(x_p-2)^2}}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{(\frac{x_{q}}{2}-5)^2+(x_q-2)^2}}-\frac{1}{\sqrt{(x_{r}-5)^2+(x_r-2)^2}}\]

Since, \(\displaystyle\frac{2x_p -5}{x_p -2}=\frac{\frac{1}{2}x_q -5}{x_q-2}\Rightarrow x_{q}=-\frac{2x_p}{3x_p-8}\) we get,

\[\frac{2}{\sqrt{(x_{r}-5)^2+(x_r-2)^2}}-\frac{1}{\sqrt{(2x_{p}-5)^2+(x_p-2)^2}}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{\left(-\frac{x_p}{3x_p -8}-5\right)^2+\left(-\frac{2x_p}{3x_p -8}-2\right)^2}}\]

\[\Rightarrow \frac{2}{\sqrt{(x_{r}-5)^2+(x_r-2)^2}}=\frac{|3x_p-8|+8}{8\sqrt{(2x_{p}-5)^2+(x_p-2)^2}}~~~~~~(1)\]

Considering the line \(L\) we can write,

\[\frac{2x_p -5}{x_p -2}=\frac{y_r -5}{x_r -2}~~~~~~~~(2)\]

By (1) and (2) we get,

\[\frac{2}{x_r -2}=\frac{|3x_p-8|+8}{8(x_p -2)}=\frac{\pm(3x_p-8)+8}{8(x_p -2)}\]

It is clear from, \(\displaystyle\frac{1}{BR}-\frac{1}{BP}=\frac{1}{BQ}-\frac{1}{BR}\) that if \(x_p=0\) then, \(x_r=0\). This happens only when we take the negative sign in the above equation. That is,

\[\frac{2}{x_r -2}=\frac{-3x_p+16}{8(x_p -2)}\]

\[\Rightarrow x_p=\frac{16x_r}{3x_r+10}\]

Substituting for \(x_p\) in (2) we get,

\[y_r=\frac{17x_r}{10}\mbox{ for }x_{r}\neq 2\]

When \(x_p=x_q=x_r=2\), \(P\equiv (2,4),\,Q\equiv (2,1)\mbox{ and }R\equiv (2,y_r)\). Then, \(BP=1,\,BQ=4\mbox{ and }BR=5-y_r \).

\[\frac{1}{BR}-\frac{1}{BP}=\frac{1}{BQ}-\frac{1}{BR}\]

\[\Rightarrow \frac{1}{5-y_r}-1=\frac{1}{4}-\frac{1}{5-y_r}\]

\[\Rightarrow \frac{1}{5-y_r}=\frac{5}{8}\]

\[\therefore y_r=5-\frac{8}{5}=\frac{17}{5}\]

Therefore,

\[y_r=\begin{cases}\frac{17x_r}{10}&\mbox{ when }&x_{r}\neq 2\\\\\frac{17}{5}&\mbox{ when }&x_r=2\end{cases}\]

\[\Rightarrow y_r=\frac{17x_r}{10}\]

Kind Regards,
Sudharaka.
 
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sbhatnagar said:
Challenge Problem: A variable line $L$ passing through the point $B(2,5)$ intersects the lines $2x^2-5xy+2y^2=0$ at $P$ and $Q$. Find the locus of the point $R$ on $L$ such that distances $BP$, $BR$ and $BQ$ are in harmonic progression.
If four collinear points $B,P,R,Q$ satisfy the condition that the distances $BP$, $BR$ and $BQ$ are in harmonic progression, then $$\frac2{BR} = \frac1{BP} + \frac1{BQ} = \frac{BP+BQ}{BP.BQ},$$ $$2BP.BQ = BR(BP+BQ),$$ $$BP(BQ-BR) + (BP-BR)BQ = 0,$$ $$BP.QR + BQ.{P}R = 0.$$
Thus the four points have cross-ratio $-1$ and form a harmonic range. If the points are all connected by lines to a point $O$ not on the line $BPQR$, then those four lines form a harmonic pencil. It follows that if the lines $OB$, $OP$ and $OQ$ are given, then the locus of $R$ is the fourth line of the harmonic pencil determined by them.

For the problem in this thread, $2x^2-5xy+2y^2=(x-2y)(2x-y)$, so the two lines $OP$ and $OQ$ have equations $y=2x$ and $y=\frac12x$. The point $B$ is $(2,5)$, so the line $OB$ has equation $y=\frac52x.$ The harmonic conjugate line $OR$ is the line through $O$ with gradient $h$ such that the gradients $\frac52,\,2,\,h,\,\frac12$ are in harmonic progression, in other words the difference $\frac52-h$ should be the harmonic mean of $\frac52-2$ and $\frac52-\frac12.$ Thus $$\frac2{\frac52-h} = \frac1{\frac52-2} + \frac1{\frac52-\frac12}.$$ You can check that the solution to that equation is $h=\frac{17}{10}.$

Finally, the locus of $R$ is the line $y=\frac{17}{10}x$.

I learned about harmonic ranges and pencils in high school 55 years ago and had forgotten about them until this thread brought it all back. That sort of projective geometry seems to have fallen out of fashion, but it is a beautiful theory and I was glad to be reminded of it.
 
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