Magnet is used to levitate another magnet

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The discussion centers on the concept of work in physics, specifically regarding the levitation of one magnet by another through magnetic repulsion. It is established that while energy is expended to position the levitating magnet, no mechanical work is performed unless there is displacement. The analogy of holding a book illustrates that energy can be used without doing work, as defined by the equation w=fd, where no distance implies no work. The conversation emphasizes the distinction between energy expenditure in muscle activity and the mechanical work done on objects.

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If a magnet is used to levitate another magnet (using the force of repulsion) can it be considered as doing "work" in opposing the force of gravity? If yes then why does the energy required to do this "work" not diminish over a period of time?
 
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Your scenario is not so clear. I just guess. If a magnet can repulse another magnet (or levitate), it creates some work. But the work comes from you when you try to place the 'another' magnet close enough to the first magnet (in case the first is a permanent one). If the first magnet is electrical, then the work comes from the electricity energy. It is very much like you try to lift a heavy bar up and let it drop, or you press a spring then release it.
 
If the magnets are stationary, then there is no work being done.
 
Zorodius said:
If the magnets are stationary, then there is no work being done.

Yes, I understand that since there is no displacement no work is being done, but there is obvisously some energy being used to keep the magnet levitated and opposing gravity
 
arul_k said:
Yes, I understand that since there is no displacement no work is being done, but there is obvisously some energy being used to keep the magnet levitated and opposing gravity
A book resting on a table is being held against gravity too, but no energy is being expended to keep it there.
 
Zorodius said:
A book resting on a table is being held against gravity too, but no energy is being expended to keep it there.

Yes, but if you were to take the book and hold it up, you would be using energy to do so, not only to lift the book but also to hold it in a fixed position above the table
 
The chemical energy that your body uses to do everyday things is different from the mechanical work that goes on outside your body. From that standpoint, your body is very inefficient. Your body truly is doing no work on that book. Look at the definition of work! w=fd. If there is no distance (no motion), there is no work.
 
russ_watters said:
Your body truly is doing no work on that book.

The key phrase here is "on that book". As you hold the book up, there is activity going on inside your arm muscles, with muscle fibers ratcheting back and forth. Those fibers are doing work which consumes chemical energy and gets transformed into heat, and makes you get tired eventually, but none of that energy gets transferred to the book.
 

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