Magnetic monopole discovery, but not the creation

[quantumgeography]

You have probably all heard about magnetic monopoles creation ,but I just want to ask is there theoretical basis
(without denying already proven theories) which would allow us to expect natural magnetic monopoles discovery?

https://arxiv.org/abs/1607.07460
https://www.london-nano.com/researc...gnetic-monopoles-discovered-by-lcn-scientists
http://phys.org/news/2014-01-physicists-synthetic-magnetic-monopole-years.html

 

[Vanadium 50]

These monopoles are not fundamental particles, they are a way of describing collective behavior in condensed matter systems.

 

[quantumgeography]

These monopoles are not fundamental particles, they are a way of describing collective behavior in condensed matter systems.

Thank you for your observation, but the question remains.

 

[quantumgeography]

These monopoles are not fundamental particles, they are a way of describing collective behavior in condensed matter systems.

Yes, magnetic monopoles are not fundamental particles (,because they are not proven yet) ,but they are hypothetical elementary particles in particle physics.

 

[mfb]

Define "natural". What is unnatural about the observed quasiparticles?

but they are hypothetical elementary particles in particle physics.

Yes, and purely hypothetical so far.

What is your actual question?

 

[quantumgeography]

Define "natural". What is unnatural about the observed quasiparticles?
Yes, and purely hypothetical so far.

What is your actual question?

Can we expect natural (as found in nature and not invovling anything made or done by people) magnetic monopoles discovery?

 

[mfb]

The crystals could occur naturally, not sure how often that happens, but there is nothing special about them.

 

[quantumgeography]

but there is nothing special about them.

If there is nothing special about them, why then we do not detected them yet? I am discussing here the probability that we can not found things that just does not exist (that's why I am asking RELIABLE theories, that can PREDICT and not SUPPOSE magnetic monopoles discovery).

 

[mfb]

If there is nothing special about them, why then we do not detected them yet?

Only a tiny amount of all crystals show magnetic monopoles as quasiparticles, and it is hard to study them experimentally. I don't know if there is a known natural material that shows them, but there is no fundamental reason why this should not occur.

 

[Vanadium 50]

Again, what is your actual question? You seem to think that there is some relationship between the collective behaviors of spin-ices and monopoles as elementary particles. There isn't.

 

[Aufbauwerk 2045]

Here are a couple of additional links on this enormously important topic. Sorry they are not very recent, but they are still interesting.

This is an overview from IEEE Spectrum.

http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/materials/the-hunt-for-the-magnetic-monopole

Here is an article concerning work at Helmholtz Zentrum Berlin.

https://www.helmholtz-berlin.de/aktuell/pm/pm-archiv/2009/pm-tennant-morris-monopole_en.html

I hope this thread is kept open, and that people who have time to follow this will continue to post news. Thanks.

 

[ChrisVer]

I guess you have "presented" your topic with an off-topic statement (in your links).
If you ask for theories that predict the existence of fundamental magnetic monopoles, you could as well scroll through them in wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_monopole#Grand_unified_theories_2
but of course, up to now all these are hypotheses (since we've never seen them in experiments so far).
Now if you're asking me about the perspectives of discovering such a thing - I won't say my beliefs (because up to now, that's a matter of taste and beliefs)... But scientists search for things even if they don't exist... We just don't like what fits well to our understanding and new stuff are always welcome...

 

[Aufbauwerk 2045]

Would it be more appropriate to open a thread on "news about magnetic monopoles?" instead of keeping this one? It's such an important topic.

 

[mfb]

If there is something new, better open a new thread.