Making up various concentraions of ethanol

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The discussion revolves around preparing various concentrations of ethanol solutions (1M, 2M, 3M, and 4M) for a practical class. Participants explore methods for dilution and the calculations involved in achieving the desired molarity from a 99% ethanol solution.

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  • One participant suggests converting molarity to percentage and calculating dilutions based on that approach.
  • Another participant agrees that the initial method should work but emphasizes the importance of considering the 99% purity of the ethanol.
  • A detailed mathematical explanation is provided, including the molar mass of ethanol and the need to account for its density when preparing solutions.
  • There is a suggestion to weigh out a specific mass of ethanol and dilute it to a liter, indicating a simpler approach to the problem.
  • A participant confirms they have the necessary laboratory equipment but expresses uncertainty due to a lack of recent experience with molarity calculations.
  • One participant reflects on the challenges of lab resource availability, humorously noting the competition for equipment in underfunded educational settings.

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Participants generally agree on the methods for preparing the ethanol solutions, but there are varying levels of detail and complexity in the approaches suggested. No consensus is reached on a single method, as multiple valid approaches are discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of density in calculations and the implications of using a 99% ethanol solution, indicating that assumptions about purity and density may affect the accuracy of the solutions prepared.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for microbiologists, chemistry students, or anyone involved in laboratory work requiring the preparation of ethanol solutions and understanding of molarity and dilutions.

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I am setting up a prac for a class next week, and need a little help on making up solutions of ethanol. (I am a microbiologist and haven't done any of this sort of stuff for years)

The prac calls for 1M, 2M, 3M and 4M solutions of ethanol, and I have a 99% solution of ethanol.

The way I thought of doing this was converting the molarity to % and then worked out what dilutions to make to achieve that percentage.

Is this correct?

Thanks

ian
 
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yeh probably should work out fine... but also count the fact that u have 99%... u should do fine
 
Mathematically speaking to make a 1Mol solution you would have to know the molar mass of ethanol (46.06g Mol) get 1Mol of that (46.06g) and make up a 1 Litre solution of it, or if you don't want to work with such large amounts scale it down by a factor 5 or 10 if you want.

Remember however that ethanols density is not == to water, so putting 46.06cm-3 is not equal to putting 46.06g in the solution. To figure out what sort of volume you must add, you must assume a 100% purity (for an accurate density) and divide through by it, so for ethanol the density is 0.789g/cm3 = 789g/dm3 Therefore you'd want
\frac{46.06}{789}*1000= 58.38cm^{3}
I multiplied it by 1000 to convert the answer from dm3 to cm3

As for eliminating your 99% purity of the ethanol problem, you will need to find out the effective mass of ethanol you must put in, this is simply done by dividing by the percentage of mass that ethanol constitutes. For your case its
\frac{46.06}{0.99} = 46.525g

Combining the effect of needing 99% but whilst also assuming the density does not deviate massively for it being 99% rather then 100%, we find:

\frac{46.525}{789}*1000 = 58.96cm^{3}

58.96cm3 (Approx to 59cm3 since I am guessing you won't have the gear for super accurate concentrations anyway) of ethanol must be added then made up to 1000cm3 (litre), alternatively you could just wait in line and weigh it out ¬¬.
 
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Just weigh out 46 grams of ethanol into a 1 L vessel and dilute to the mark. Its not that hard and you don't have to know the temperature dependence of molar volume, etc...

You do have a balance don't you?
 
Yeah I have all the equipment, volumetric flasks and pipettes balances etc, it is a fully functioning laboratory. It has just been so long since I have had to work with moles and molarity that I have forgotten it.

I just wanted to check i was on the right track.

thanks for all of your replies.

Ian
 
Yeah, I was going off the suggestion that all labs are like the ones I use, I.E. at the beginning of a session you have about 15 people trying to use the 4 scales ¬_¬ damn underfunded education!
 

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