Martian Pole Star: Same as Earth's?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of pole stars on Mars in comparison to Earth's pole star, Polaris. Participants explore the differences in celestial pole positioning due to axial tilt and precession, as well as the visibility of stars near Mars' celestial pole.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether Mars has a pole star similar to Earth's, specifically asking about the use of Polaris as a Martian pole star.
  • Another participant explains that the Martian north celestial pole is located in the constellation Cygnus, near Cepheus, but the stars there are too faint to serve as a useful pole star.
  • A participant clarifies that while Earth's and Mars' axial tilts are similar, they point in different directions, which affects the identification of pole stars.
  • It is noted that both Earth and Mars experience axial precession, which means their celestial poles can change over time, potentially allowing them to share a pole star at different points in the future.
  • One participant expresses concern about the editing of posts, suggesting that it can lead to confusion in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the differences in axial tilt and the implications for pole stars, but there is no consensus on the visibility and utility of Martian pole stars compared to Earth's.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the implications of axial precession on the identification of pole stars, nor does it clarify the visibility limitations of stars near Mars' celestial pole.

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martian pole stars same as Earth pole stars ?
 
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The Martian north celestial pole resides in the constellation Cygnus- near the border of Cepheus.
Unfortunately, the stars nearest the pole are too faint to be useful. The closet is approximately a half-degree away and is barely visible to the naked eye. The pole is close to the halfway point between Deneb in Cygnus and Alderamin in Cepheus-- the brightest stars in their respective constellations.

See the following image:
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/1663/marsnorthpole.th.jpg

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Here are a couple of links for further information:
http://Earth'sky.org/space/mars-north-south-star
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomy_on_Mars#Celestial_poles_and_ecliptic
 
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my question was different.. your reply answers y Mars doesn't have a good pole star.
 
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m~ray said:
the question i had asked was, why can the polaris (earth's pole star) not be used as martian pole star when both have similar inclination of rotation axis.
While the axial tilts are similar in degree, Mars is tilted in a different direction. Earth is tilted so that its axis points toward Polaris. Mars' points toward Cygnus/Cepheus.
 
thanks.
 
Also, it is bad form to completely edit your posts to change their meaning. It creates confusion and makes it hard to figure out what's going on. Just add a new post that contains what you want to say.
 

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