Mastering Exams: Time Management Tips for International Science Students

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The discussion centers around the challenges faced by an international science student adapting to exam formats in the US, particularly in physics. The focus is on time management and the differences in evaluation methods compared to their previous education in Brazil.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration with the exam format in the US, noting that they struggle to complete exams in the allotted time despite being well-prepared.
  • Another participant questions what specific aspects of the problems or the student's approach contribute to their difficulties in solving them quickly.
  • The original poster attributes their struggles to a lack of training for the exam format, contrasting it with their previous experience where detailed derivations were valued over quick answers.
  • Some participants suggest that the emphasis on memorization in the US system differs significantly from the Brazilian approach, where understanding and derivation were prioritized.
  • There are suggestions to adapt to the US exam format by focusing on providing answers rather than derivations unless explicitly required.
  • One participant notes that while deriving everything may not be necessary, it is still important to understand the concepts behind the problems.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of adapting to the new system and suggests that students should seek information about exam formats from professors.
  • Some participants agree that the grading system in the US, particularly with frequent homework assignments, is beneficial for student learning.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that adapting to the US exam format is necessary, but there are differing opinions on the value of derivations versus quick answers. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best strategies for managing time and expectations during exams.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the exam formats and grading systems in both Brazilian and US educational contexts, which may influence participants' perspectives and experiences.

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Hi all

I have a BS and a masters in physics, both attained in very good Brazilian universities. Now I'm in the US for my PhD, and from all the difficulties I thought I would encounter, I find myself struggling with something completely unexpected: exams.

This is how exams work in the universities I attended; you're given a very difficult set of problems and up to four hours to solve it. If you were well prepared you could solve most of it, if not you do what you can. Time is not really an issue. Here I'm given an extremely trivial set of problems and 45 minutes to solve everything. I did 3 exams so far and I couldn't finish a single one of them in time!

Anyway, I'm open for suggestions and tips as I need to learn how to solve these exams faster. I consider myself a good student, I work very hard, my homeworks all get 100% score, but these exams are killing me. It's not just a matter of getting a lower than ideal grade, I think I'm going to fail these classes.
 
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If the problems are, as you say, trivial, what is it about them or about you that makes it difficult for you to solve them fairly quickly?
 
Lack of training for this particular format, I guess. I used to be punished for putting down equations without explaining where they come from and rewarded for making detailed arguments and derivations. Now it's completely inverted. During a classical mechanics exam here, for example, I ran out of time when I was deriving a kinetic energy term in spherical coordinates. Apparently I'm not supposed to show that I know how to do that, but show that I memorized it instead.
 
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diegzumillo said:
Lack of training for this particular format, I guess. I used to be punished for putting down equations without explaining where they come from and rewarded for making detailed arguments and derivations. Now it's completely inverted. During a classical mechanics exam here, for example, I ran out of time when I was deriving a kinetic energy term in spherical coordinates. Apparently I'm not supposed to show that I know how to do that, but show that I memorized it instead.
Welcome to American education. There WILL be times when it is very valuable to know how to do it, so don't despair about that, as it is a good thing. Just try to get a better sense of when you are supposed to show a derivation and when then point is just to get an answer. I'd suggest that you talk to the prof about it.

Sounds like Brazilian physics education is WAY different (better) than when Feynman was there.
 
I don't know about that, so far that's the only thing I would consider a solid win on our side :) And it's just this particular aspect of the evaluation system, I love how much emphasis is put on homeworks aroudn here. There is one every week for each course, they are NOT trivial and the graders in charge of these seem to take grading very seriously. It keeps me busy 7 days a week studying, I think it's great. We don't have that where I studied in Brazil, possibly because the professor has to do all the grading himself. Come to think of it, that might explain why the exams are better though.
 
I don't see the point of deriving everything on tests. It is good to know, but why prove that you know it on a time constrained test? Anyway, I guess you'll have to adapt to how thing work in the US. Don't worry if you do bad on a exam or two at first. Also try to get some information on the format of the exam from your professor beforehand.
 
Exactly, it's just a matter of adapting to it. I'm just afraid of not adapting in time and failing these important core courses.
But I'm taking notes here.
1) No derivations (unless specifically requested by the problem statement)
2) When in doubt between two possible methods of solution, the simplest one is likely the intended method.
 
diegzumillo said:
Exactly, it's just a matter of adapting to it. I'm just afraid of not adapting in time and failing these important core courses.
But I'm taking notes here.
1) No derivations (unless specifically requested by the problem statement)
2) When in doubt between two possible methods of solution, the simplest one is likely the intended method.

They generally accept most different solutions, unless one is overly complicated.
 

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