Math subjects prior to starting physics

  • Context: High School 
  • Thread starter Thread starter ahmadmz
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Physics
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the mathematical preparation needed before starting physics, particularly for individuals who are self-studying math prior to entering college. Participants share recommendations for books and resources in algebra, trigonometry, and calculus, while also discussing the relevance of various math subjects for engineering and physics studies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to master basic geometry, trigonometry, and algebra before starting calculus and physics, seeking recommendations for suitable textbooks.
  • Another participant suggests the Schaum's Outline series as a good resource for calculus and trigonometry, noting their effectiveness for self-study.
  • A different participant recommends "Calculus Made Easy" for its approachable style, sharing personal success in self-teaching calculus and trigonometry using this book.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of finding a book that is engaging and appropriately challenging, rather than just focusing on the quality of the book itself.
  • Another participant mentions the "Demystified" series and "The Complete Idiot's Guide to..." as potentially useful resources for algebra.
  • Some participants discuss the necessity of calculus for physics, with one stating that Calculus I is sufficient, while another insists that both Calculus I and II are essential for a typical physics sequence in engineering and physical sciences.
  • One participant highlights the importance of linear algebra and other advanced topics, such as Fourier analysis and differential equations, for engineering students, suggesting that these subjects are as crucial as calculus.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of mastering foundational math subjects before studying physics, but there are differing opinions on the specific math courses required. Some believe that only Calculus I is necessary, while others argue that both Calculus I and II are essential. Additionally, there is no consensus on the best resources for algebra.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with different math subjects and resources, indicating that personal experience may influence their recommendations. There is also a recognition of the need for self-motivation in choosing study materials.

ahmadmz
Messages
62
Reaction score
0
Hi, i am currently trying to study math on my own. I graduated from high school 5 years ago and was always average in math. For some reasons i could not attend college, but now finally i might be able to. I plan on doing electrical/computer engineering or comp sci someday and am also interested in physics. But my math is not too good. So i reviewed some basics and geometry. Now i plan on studying algebra, trig, calculus. In that order, and plan to start physics when i reach Calculus. The last class i took in college was college algebra but i barely remember anything from it. I have a few months to study on my own and want to master basic geometry/trig/algebra myself before i start college.
Since my first math class might be Calc 1 (or Trig if that is a prereq).
Please recommend some Algebra / Trig and Calc books that i can buy. I have searched this forum and most books seem a little advanced for me. I need something that explains the concepts thoroughly and the material is high school - 1st year college level. I am just waiting to get a good book .. i want to start asap :P I really regret not studying after getting out of high school. I am 23 now and most of my friends are about to get out of college :(
I am glad i realized i need to get the knowledge and found this great forum. Please recommend some books/tips. Thanks.
 
Mathematics news on Phys.org
I am familiar with some titles from the venerable Schaum Outlines series and consider these to be surprisingly good books. While I don't know these particular books, they might be just what you want:

Frank Ayres, Schaum's Outline of Calculus, 4th ed, McGraw Hill, 1999.

Frank Ayres and George J. Hademenos, Schaum's Outline of Trigonometry, abridged edition, McGraw Hill, 2002.

BTW, your determination to get going speaks well for your chances of success! Good luck with this :smile:

(Heh, I see that according to amazon.com someone is asking U.S. $400 for a copy of the first book! That's surely a mistake and I am sure that you can get a much better price!)
 
Last edited:
I really enjoyed "Calculus Made Easy", https://www.amazon.com/dp/0333772431/?tag=pfamazon01-20

I had to teach myself a bunch of calculus and trig before going to school for Physics, because it had been 5 years since I had been in school and I dug this book. Its style of writing is a bit older, but the theory is the same. Might want to find it in a bookstore and have a look through it before ordering it online (if you choose to)
 
Ok thanks guys, i'll check those out. Any good book for algebra?
 
The "Demystified" series seems good enough, personally I find that the trick is not finding a good book, its finding a book that you'll actually do. Pick a book, and look at the questions its ask you and see if they are easy enough that you could understand them on your own, but hard enough where you'll learn something
 
Some of the series, "The Complete Idiot's Guide to...," really do contain a lot of well-written information. You could drop in at a big bookstore, order a java, and check them out--for free, of course.
 
Up to Calc I is all that is truly needed for Physics... occasionally, you will need to know about infinite sums/series.
 
You need at least Calculus I and Calculus II as adequate preparation for the typical common Physics sequence for engineering & physical sciences. You will find very intense use of some Calculus II skills in the Electricity & Magnetism course of that Physics sequence.
 
Linear Algebra is terribly important for undergraduate engineering students, as is (at a higher level) Fourier analysis and topics in differential equations which require some background in real analysis. LA is really just as important as Calc for engineers. At some schools, the senior year applied math course is built around exterior algebra and exterior calculus and engineers are required to take that. If your engineering school doesn't, you are being cheated.

Sorry, I can't think of any (precalc?) algebra books, but browsing the math book shelves at the largest chain bookstore in your area sounds like a good idea. Best would be a large university book store if you can get to a college town.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
5K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
5K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
3K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
1K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K