Are you a mathematician from one of these 24 scientific families?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of mathematical ancestry and whether participants can trace their academic lineage to one of the 24 scientific families identified in a referenced article. The scope includes personal anecdotes, reflections on mathematical talent, and the process of exploring mathematical genealogy.

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  • One participant references an article suggesting that most mathematicians come from just 24 scientific families.
  • Another participant shares a personal connection to Gauss through a detailed academic lineage.
  • Some participants express difficulty in tracing their mathematical ancestry, noting challenges with the genealogy database.
  • There are humorous reflections on coincidences related to family sizes and superstitions about numbers.
  • One participant mentions a connection to Friedrich Leibniz, highlighting the historical significance of their lineage.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on their connections to the 24 families, with some claiming lineage while others do not. There is a mix of personal experiences and challenges in tracing ancestry, indicating a lack of agreement on the ease of this process.

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Some participants note limitations in their ability to trace lineage due to the structure of the genealogy database and the complexity of academic relationships.

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And a professor of mine once told me that mathematical talent is passed on the sons in law ...
 
I am not a mathematician, but it seems that I can trace my academic lineage back to Gauss:

Gauss -> Christian Gerling -> Julius Plucker -> Felix Klein -> Ferdinand Lindemann -> Arnold Sommerfeld -> Peter Debye -> Paul Scherrer -> Robert Mercier -> Edgar Luscher -> Wlliam Baylis -> George Jones
 
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How did you handle this site? I've gone to the mentor (PhD in 1959) of mine who is in the database, but haven't found any way to go further.
The calculation of another popular "math ancestry" was far easier.
 
fresh_42 said:
How did you handle this site? I've gone to the mentor (PhD in 1959) of mine who is in the database, but haven't found any way to go further.
The calculation of another popular "math ancestry" was far easier.

You go to the math genealogy database. Then you go to the name in question and keep clicking "advisor". Once you can't go further, I think you've reached the family starter.
 
micromass said:
You go to the math genealogy database. Then you go to the name in question and keep clicking "advisor". Once you can't go further, I think you've reached the family starter.
Thank you. I ended up with Friedrich Leibniz (advisor of Gottfried Leibniz) which is funny because I've attended a Leibniz-school.
The way there has read as a who-is-who in 18th - early 20th century.
 
fresh_42 said:
Thank you. I ended up with Friedrich Leibniz (advisor of Gottfried Leibniz) which is funny because I've attended a Leibniz-school.
The way there has read as a who-is-who in 16th - 19th century.

That's the fourth largest family. Nice.
 
micromass said:
That's the fourth largest family. Nice.
Fourth? Lol, another coincidence. I'll have to review my strict rejection of superstitions and numerology. I really hope nobody will create a database that goes even deeper. I'd probably end up at Pythagoras. And I don't like him because of his numerology. At least easy to remember as long as I don't forget my school.
 

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