Mathematical Induction question

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical induction problem involving the intersection and union of sets. Participants are attempting to prove a statement regarding the relationship between the unions of intersections of sets and are seeking clarification on the steps involved in the proof.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

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  • One participant describes their approach to the induction proof, starting with the base case and outlining the induction step but expresses difficulty in completing the proof.
  • Another participant provides a reformulation of the statement to be proven, including mathematical notation, and asks for assistance in completing the proof.
  • Some participants suggest that the expression can be simplified and offer alternative formulations, indicating a potential equivalence between different expressions.
  • There is a discussion about the clarity of the relationships between the sets involved, with some participants acknowledging their understanding while others still find it unclear.
  • One participant draws a parallel between the induction proof and the summation of terms, suggesting a similar structure in reasoning.
  • Several participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the proof, with some confirming their comprehension while others indicate ongoing confusion.

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Participants generally agree on the structure of the induction proof and the relationships between the sets, but there is no consensus on the clarity of the proof steps or the final understanding of the induction process.

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Some participants express uncertainty about specific steps in the proof, indicating that further clarification may be needed regarding the mathematical symbols and their application in the context of induction.

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A question I'm working on and my math book doesn't clarify the answer well enough for me to follow. I'm having some issues at getting the math symbols to work correctly so bare with me!Prove by mathematical induction that if A1, A2, ..., An and B are any n + 1 sets, then:
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Base step = n = 1 so P(1): A1 ∩ B = A1 ∩ B
Induction Step: LHS of P(k+1):

Substitute (k+1) for all N. Working LHS: (where {k U i = 1}Ai is the union from 1 to n of Ak)
=(({k U i = 1}Ai​) U Ak+1) ∩ B; then distribute:
=(({k U i = 1}(Ai​ ∩ B) U ( Ak+1 ∩ B)

then this is where I get stuck. I feel there is about one or two more steps but I can't seem to grasp it. Any suggestions?
 

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William said:
Prove by mathematical induction that if A1, A2, ..., An and B are any n + 1 sets, then:
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$\bigcup\limits_{k = 1}^{N + 1} {\left( {A_k \cap B} \right)} = \bigcup\limits_{k = 1}^N {\left( {A_k \cap B} \right)} \cup \left( {A_{N + 1} \cap B} \right)$
$ = \left[ {\left( {\bigcup\limits_{k = 1}^{N } { {A_k }} } \right) \cap B} \right] \cup \left( {A_{N+1 } \cap B} \right)$
$ = \left[ {\left( {\bigcup\limits_{k = 1}^{N } { {A_k } } } \right) \cup A_{N+1 } } \right] \cap B$.

Can you finish?
 
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Wouldn't it just be:

= {k+1 U i = 1 Ai U Ak+1) ∩ B
= {k+1 U i = 1} (Ai ∩ B)
 
William said:
Wouldn't it just be:
= {k+1 U i = 1 Ai U Ak+1) ∩ B
= {k+1 U i = 1} (Ai ∩ B)
Do you see that $\left( {\bigcup\limits_{k = 1}^N {A_k } } \right) \cup A_{N + 1} = \bigcup\limits_{k = 1}^{N + 1} {A_k } ~?$

I started with $P(N)$ being true.
Then looked at the expansion of $P(N+1)$.
 
Yes, I sort of see how they are equal. It's still not crystal clear to me yet though.
 
William said:
Yes, I sort of see how they are equal. It's still not crystal clear to me yet though.
Can you see that $\sum\limits_{k = 1}^{n + 1} {a_k } = a_1 + a_2 + \cdots + a_{n + 1} = \left( {a_1 + a_2 + \cdots + a_n } \right) + a_{n + 1} ~?$

If so $\sum\limits_{k = 1}^{n + 1} {a_k } =\sum\limits_{k = 1}^{n} {a_k }+ a_{n + 1} $
 
Yes, I see that.
 
William said:
Yes, I see that.
Then what are you missing in understanding the induction proof?
 

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