Mathematical words that add up to 50

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The discussion revolves around finding mathematical words that add up to 50 based on a specific letter-value system where consonants are added and vowels are subtracted. The scope includes exploratory reasoning and technical challenges related to word formation and mathematical definitions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests help in finding a single mathematical word that totals 50 using a specific letter-value system.
  • Some participants express frustration with the nature of the exercise, questioning its relevance to actual mathematics.
  • Another participant humorously suggests the word "diffeomorphism" and provides a breakdown of its letter values, though later clarifications about the word's definition arise.
  • There are corrections regarding the definition of diffeomorphism, with some participants debating its properties and the distinction between diffeomorphisms and homotopies.
  • A later reply mentions the possibility of using a program to compute suitable words, suggesting that many words can meet the criteria, such as "spheric" and "pentagon."

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Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the validity of the exercise and the definitions of mathematical terms. There is no consensus on the relevance of the task or the correctness of the definitions discussed.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note errors in earlier posts and clarify definitions, but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the appropriateness of the exercise and the definitions of terms like diffeomorphism.

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This is kinda Urgent, i need an answer as soon as possible-
Can anybody think of Math words that add up to 50 if:
a=1
b=2
c=3 etc
Needs to be one word.
Consonants must be added and vowels subtracted eg.
to work out the word "add" you do 4+4-1=4 in any order.
Thanks for your help!
 
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Blarrgh...your teacher should find another job.
 
tell me about it, it isn't even anything much to do with math, its just monotnous and boring
 
So give that as your answer to her (sounds like a woman). Ask her when you are supposed to actually learn MATHS, and not nonsense.
 
its a him and he's the most stuffy,irritating,"always right" teacher that ever lived. If he makes a mistake he's too stubborn to correct it and complaining is liable to get a detention, believe me, I've tried!
 
Complain to the headmaster all the same.
This "exercise" is just nonsense and has nothing to do with maths, nor with coffee-table puzzles.
Put your case cogently forth, it is rather important that this teacher of yours gets an official reprimand for his "work".
 
mouhaha diffeomorphism, got it on first try :biggrin:

consonant: d+f+f+m+r+s+m =4+12+13+18+16+8+19+13=103

vowels: i+e+o+o+i = 9+5+15+15+9=53

You'd better double check

If he asks what a diffeomorsphism is tell him it's a map btw objects that conserves the topological properties (never done topology b4 but I think that's correct). Like the famous exemple that a donut can be continuously transformed into a cofee mug is because these two objects are diffeomorphic, i.e. there exists a diffeomorphism btw them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mug_and_Torus_morph.gif
 
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good idea,thanks for your help.
 
quasar987 said:
mouhaha diffeomorphic, got it on first try :biggrin:
You're kidding, right?
 
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sorry to burst your bubble, but it needs to be a single word(forgot to mention that)but great word.
 
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note: there was an error in my post, the word that works is "diffeomorphism", not "phic", but I edited it.
 
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diffeomorphism IS a single word... so how is his bubble burst?
 
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Would that be "mouhaha diffeomorphism", or just "diffeomorphism"?
 
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mouhaha is the sound of my glorious laughter
 
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quasar987 said:
mouhaha is the sound of my glorious laughter
Eerie..:rolleyes:
 
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ooooooooooohhhhhhhh sorry i get easily confused!
 
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blackwargreymon564 said:
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You ought to complain to the headmaster all the nonetheless.
Your complaint will have all the more force behind it now that you have "solved" that idiot teacher's problem.
He shouldn't get away with this.
 
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Define [tex]\alpha[/tex] to be 50.

Then [tex]\alpha[/tex] works
 
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quasar987 said:
If he asks what a diffeomorsphism is tell him it's a map btw objects that conserves the topological properties (never done topology b4 but I think that's correct). Like the famous exemple that a donut can be continuously transformed into a cofee mug is because these two objects are diffeomorphic, i.e. there exists a diffeomorphism btw them.


A diffeomorphism is a differentiable map with differentiable inverse. It is nothing to do with donuts to coffee cups. That is a homotopy. Homotopies are in general neither differentiable nor invertible.
 
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I stand corrected.

Matt, I've seen the definition of a diffeomorphism in the context of differential geometry as a smooth map with a smooth inverse btw surfaces. Are you saying it's ok to call just any r time differentiable map with a r times differentiable inverse a diffeo?
 
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No, smooth is probably required, I can't be bothered to check.
 
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This might actually have been a fun exercise if you were meant to use a program to compute it. It took me a few minutes to find a suitable word list and write a Python program (actually not really a program, just using the interpreter), and it came up with a zillion words with sum 50, like spheric and pentagon.
 
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