Mathematicians and physicists, do you get intimidated by equations?

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The discussion revolves around the feelings of intimidation or excitement that mathematicians and physicists experience when encountering equations, particularly when starting to read a new mathematical text without beginning at the start. Participants share their personal experiences and reactions to equations and mathematical challenges.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express that they do not feel intimidated by equations, often approaching math texts by looking for sections of interest.
  • Others indicate that starting in the middle of a book can be intimidating, preferring to read from the beginning to build understanding.
  • A few participants mention that while they may not be intimidated by equations in general, they can feel intimidated when faced with difficult problems.
  • One participant describes a transformation in their feelings towards equations after taking an astrophysics class, suggesting that familiarity can reduce intimidation.
  • Another participant notes that unknown equations can spark curiosity rather than intimidation, although they acknowledge limits to their understanding.
  • Several participants share humorous or light-hearted reactions to the complexity of equations, indicating a mix of intimidation and excitement.
  • One participant expresses a love for equations and textbooks, viewing them as a source of wonder and information.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express a range of feelings about equations, with no consensus on whether they are primarily intimidating or exciting. Multiple competing views remain regarding personal experiences and reactions to mathematical challenges.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention specific equations or contexts that have previously intimidated them, but these experiences are subjective and vary widely among individuals.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to students and professionals in mathematics and physics, as well as those exploring their feelings towards mathematical texts and equations.

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suppose you are just about to read a book about some new mathematical subject.

but you didn't start at page one. instead you open up to the middle of the book.

and of course in that page you see lines upon lines of equations and symbols.


do you get intimidated?
 
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No. Why would I?

That's pretty much the way I do read math texts (not quite at random; I peruse the index for the parts that I care about and open to those, then back search if I encounter terms or concepts I'm not familiar with).
 
oahz said:
suppose you are just about to read a book about some new mathematical subject.

but you didn't start at page one. instead you open up to the middle of the book.

and of course in that page you see lines upon lines of equations and symbols.


do you get intimidated?

I do get intimidated if I do that. I always like to read a book from page 1 and continue on. I don't feel comfortable if I just start in the middle of the book, unless I know the subject already.

Of course, intimidated doesn't mean I put the book down. It usually motivates me to understand it.
 
Whenever I do that I get excited because it looks intense :P
I tell myself I'm going to be able to understand it soon. Then I start the book. Like micromass I like to start on page 1. But I do look ahead just to see what I will be learning
 
Not really, but when I'm just starting a new problem that seems difficult I sometimes get intimidated by it.
 
dipole said:
Not really, but when I'm just starting a new problem that seems difficult I sometimes get intimidated by it.
I identify with this more so than what was stated in the OP. If the problem looks difficult / challenging and I am just starting it, I immediately get very scared.
 
I'm far from a mathematician but unknown equations and symbols makes me more curious than intimidated.Of course there's a point where you seriously lack the background necessary to even try to understand them , in that case you just tell yourself "one day I'll understand them" and move on to more self-teachable material.

What is more likely to intimidate me is if I'm starting a problem , understand all the notations , and struggle to understand it anyway.
 
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oahz said:
suppose you are just about to read a book about some new mathematical subject.

but you didn't start at page one. instead you open up to the middle of the book.

and of course in that page you see lines upon lines of equations and symbols.


do you get intimidated?

I used to, but I think my astrophysics class cured that somehow. I used to look at some of the stuff wannabeNewton talks about...and even his signature and I would think "holy living hell." But now when I look at his signature I feel like it makes sense...even though I have not the slightest idea of its application :biggrin:

One equation that really intimidated me just upon sight was the equation for the nuclear energy generation rate for the proton-proton chain. But once I learned how it is applied, I could not believe how easy it was to understand.
 
I think "sweet in just 200 pages I'll know all this stuff"

Then 10 pages later I never read the book again :/ but that's a motivational issue
 
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lolol
 
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HeLiXe said:
...and even his signature and I would think "holy living hell." But now when I look at his signature I feel like it makes sense...even though I have not the slightest idea of its application :biggrin:
I have changed it for your viewing pleasure trololol (as random as the equation may seem, it is actually quite important in proving a theorem that allows you to then construct the most general form of the metric tensor for a stationary, axisymmetric space-time whose axial and time-like killing vector fields satisfy a few specific conditions).
 
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WannabeNewton said:
I have changed it for your viewing pleasure trololol

eeeeevil:devil:

Well looking at this one...
it looks like it has something to do with either loops or matrices, probability functions (due to ψ), and spatial distance :biggrin:
 
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HeLiXe said:
eeeeevil:devil:

Well looking at this one...
it looks like it has something to do with either loops or matrices, probability functions (due to ψ), and spatial distance :biggrin:
It's my order number from starbucks loolz

Have you tried randomly flipping to a page in a QFT book? I did and I was like O.O and then I was like T_T and then I was like X.X
 
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WannabeNewton said:
It's my order number from starbucks loolz

Have you tried randomly flipping to a page in a QFT book? I did and I was like O.O and then I was like T_T and then I was like X.X

:smile:

no I haven't but if that happened to you, I'm sure I'd be like x_X
 
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HeLiXe said:
:smile:

no I haven't but if that happened to you, I'm sure I'd be like x_X
X_x x_x x_X >.< >.> <.< ^.^ V.V ... ok I'll stop now (yes I'm that bored lol)
 
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lololol V.V
 
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I love equations, and I love textbooks. There's something wondrous about having so much information available. I love having hard copies of textbooks. It's tremendously fun to be able to open up a book and learn.
 

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