Matrix determinant operator commutative?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the properties of the determinant operator in relation to matrix multiplication, specifically whether the determinant operator is commutative. Participants explore the implications of the determinant of products of matrices and seek a formal description of this property.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that the determinant of the product of matrices is equal to the product of their determinants, regardless of the order of multiplication.
  • Another participant suggests that the terms "distributivity" and "commutativity" may be relevant in describing the properties of the determinant operator.
  • A request for clarification is made regarding the commutativity of matrix multiplication itself.
  • A correction is proposed regarding the assumption that matrices must be nonsingular, suggesting instead that they should be square matrices for the property to hold.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity of matrices being nonsingular versus square for the determinant properties to apply. The discussion on whether the determinant operator can be described as commutative remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the need for precise definitions and assumptions regarding matrix properties, particularly concerning singularity and dimensionality.

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I've been going through properties of determinants of matrices and found the following:

Assuming products are defined and the matrices involved are nonsingular of the same order

The determinant of the product of any number of matrices is equal to the determinant of each matrix; where the order of factors does not matter

det(AB)=det(A)det(B)
det(AB)=det(B)det(A)
det(BA)=det(A)det(B)
det(BA)=det(B)det(A)

det(ABC)=det(C)det(A)det(B)

det(ACB)=det(A)det(B)det(C)

Is this correct? And is there a way to describe this property regarding commutatively? I know in general matrix multiplication is not commutative unless the matrices involved are diagonal and of the same dimension. However the determinant operator seems to not preserve the non commutative property of matrix multiplication, on either side of the equality. What I’m looking for here is a formal way of describing this property that encompasses the fact that order of factors does not matter and if commutativity should be used in any part of this description. Is matrix multiplication commutative?
 
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Probably (multiplicative) distributivity for the determinant together with commutativity of it's target space are the terms you are looking for.
 
Thanks, that makes sense. Can you explain a bit more why is matrix multiplication commutative?
 
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Something isn't completely accurate in the second sentence of the original post

"Assuming products are defined and the matrices involved are nonsingular of the same order"

since it doesn't matter if the matrices are nonsingular for this property to hold a more accurate statement would be

"Assuming products are defined and the matrices involved are square matrices"
 

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