Max Scattering Angle from Thompson Plum Pudding Model

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SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on calculating the maximum scattering angle (θ) of an alpha particle interacting with the Thomson plum pudding model. The derived formula for θ is θ = (2z2e²)/(4πε₀KR), where z is the atomic number, e is the elementary charge, ε₀ is the vacuum permittivity, K is the kinetic energy of the alpha particle, and R is the atomic radius. For an 8.0-MeV alpha particle scattering from a gold atom with a radius of 0.135 nm, the participants explore the implications of the Coulomb force and the assumptions of constant force during the interaction time Δt = 2R/v. The discussion emphasizes the relevance of small-angle approximations in deriving the scattering angle.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Coulomb's Law and electrostatic forces
  • Familiarity with the Thomson plum pudding model of atomic structure
  • Basic knowledge of kinematics and energy in particle physics
  • Ability to perform dimensional analysis and unit cancellation
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  • Learn about the implications of the Thomson plum pudding model in historical context
  • Explore the application of small-angle approximations in physics problems
  • Investigate the properties of alpha particles and their interactions with matter
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Students and educators in physics, particularly those focusing on atomic models, particle interactions, and electrostatics. This discussion is beneficial for anyone studying nuclear physics or preparing for advanced topics in quantum mechanics.

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1. Problem Statement:

Consider the scattering of an alpha particle from the positively charged part of the Thomson plum-pudding model. Let the kinetic energy of the α particle be K (nonrelativistic) and let the atomic radius be R.
  • (a) Assuming that the maximum transverse Coulomb force acts on the α particle for a time Δt = 2R/v (where v is the initial speed of the α particle), show that the largest scattering angle we can expect from a single atom is

    [tex]\theta = \frac{2z_2e^2}{4\pi\epsilon_0KR}[/tex]

(b) Evaluate θ for an 8.0-MeV α particle scattering from a gold atom of radius 0.135 nm.

Homework Equations



[tex]ΔP = \int F_{ΔP}dt[/tex][/B]

The Attempt at a Solution



By writing out the units for the above equation, I get that the units all cancel each other out, so it it dimensionless like an angle would be... But I'm really not seeing how to make the connection between what looks like some sort of Coulomb's Law application and angle is made.

Up to this point, when I've solved for angles, there has always been some sort of arctan or arcsine function. I understand that sometimes, when θ is very small, sin(θ) ≈ tan(θ) ≈ θ. But we are talking about large angles in this example. So I am pretty much lost. Any help to get me started on this would be appreciated.
 
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Small angle approximations should be valid here. In the plum pudding model, an alpha particle with kinetic energy of the order of an Mev would not be expected to deflect much.

It appears that you are asked to construct a simple, approximate (hand-waving) derivation of θ. Assume the transverse force on the alpha particle is constant for the time Δt given and that the magnitude of the force is equal to the maximum force that the particle could experience from the sphere of positive charge.
 
Alright man, I figured maybe they were expecting small-angle approximation, because the only other technique I know is a polynomial expansion which didn't seem valid in this case. Thanks for the help.
 

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