Meaning of countable in definitions of sigma algebra

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the term "countable" in the context of the definition of a sigma-algebra, specifically whether it refers to finite or countably infinite unions and intersections of sets.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether "countable" means finite or countably infinite (Post 1).
  • Another participant asserts that in this context, "countable" means finite or countably infinite, indicating that every countable union or intersection of sets in Σ is included in Σ (Post 2).
  • A later reply agrees with the interpretation but adds that since the empty set is included, the distinction may not matter in practical terms, as finite unions can be treated as countably infinite unions by adding empty sets (Post 4).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is some agreement on the interpretation of "countable" as encompassing both finite and countably infinite cases, but the implications of this interpretation are debated.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve whether the practical implications of the definition affect the theoretical understanding of sigma-algebras.

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Meaning of "countable" in definitions of sigma algebra

In the third axiom defining a [itex]\sigma[/itex]-algebra, [itex](X,\Sigma)[/itex], does countable mean (a) "finite or countably infinite", or does it mean (b) "countably infinite".
 
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In this context it means (a), i.e. every countable(finite or countably infinite) union or intersection of sets in Σ is in Σ.
 


Thanks.
 


mathman said:
In this context it means (a), i.e. every countable(finite or countably infinite) union or intersection of sets in Σ is in Σ.

I agree. But in this case (because the empty set is already there) it doesn't matter. A finite union is the same as a countably infinite union by appending empty sets to the list.
 

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