Mechanical Resonance: Can Soldiers' March Cause 16 Hz?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of mechanical resonance in the context of a bridge with a natural frequency of 16 Hz and the potential effects of soldiers marching across it. Participants explore the implications of this frequency and its relation to foot traffic.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the physical meaning of a natural frequency of 16 Hz and questions the feasibility of achieving resonance through marching. Some participants introduce the concept of harmonics and discuss typical frequencies associated with foot traffic.

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Participants are actively engaging with the topic, offering insights about harmonics and typical resonance frequencies for bridges. There is a recognition of the theoretical nature of the original question, and some guidance has been provided regarding common practices in bridge design.

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There is mention of the original poster's long absence from physics studies, which may affect their understanding of the topic. Additionally, references to specific literature and real-world examples of bridge failures are noted, indicating a broader context of bridge engineering challenges.

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Q: If a bridge has a natural frequency of 16 Hz and assuming that a battalion of soldiers marches across it, will mechanical resonance occur?

Personally, I was quite unclear about the physical implication of "16 Hz". In my interpretation, I feel that to cause a mechanical resonance on the bridge, at a particular spot of that bridge, 16 cycles of march per second is required. But to make a spot to experience these 16 cycles per second is not very possible. Henceforth, I would like to check with the experts out there to see if I have made some errors in understanding.

I would really appreciate some feedback. Thanks! :)
 
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You are forgetting about harmonics: excitations at 2, 4, and 8 Hz will also excite a 16 Hz resonance.
 
Actually, 16 Hz is the fundamental frequency. Sorry, I did not clarify properly.
 
Bridge designers commonly check for 2 Hz resonances as that is about what you can expect from foot traffic, even in cadence. I think Henry Petroski has a good section on that in one of his books, though I can't remember which. American Scientist also ran a piece on this within the past twenty years though that might well have just been Petroski again.
 
By the way, except for that nutty Millenium Footbridge, bridges don't have undamped natural resonances unless somebody screwed up big time.
 
TVP45 said:
Bridge designers commonly check for 2 Hz resonances as that is about what you can expect from foot traffic, even in cadence. I think Henry Petroski has a good section on that in one of his books, though I can't remember which. American Scientist also ran a piece on this within the past twenty years though that might well have just been Petroski again.

TVP45 said:
By the way, except for that nutty Millenium Footbridge, bridges don't have undamped natural resonances unless somebody screwed up big time.

Hi TVP45, thanks for the reply. Well, it's a theoretical question given in my tutorial. But I have not been touching my physics materials for five years? heh :P
 
And, BTW, designers do screw up. Here in Pittsburgh, a major new bridge span (less than 20 years old) fell off its rocker Thursday. Ouch!
 

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