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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a passenger lift, focusing on the calculations of maximum passenger mass under different acceleration conditions. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and application of mechanics principles.

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  • One participant presents a problem involving a lift with a specified mass, breaking tension, and maximum acceleration, asking for the maximum mass of passengers during upward and downward acceleration.
  • Another participant expresses confusion regarding their calculations and references a textbook answer, indicating a potential discrepancy in their results.
  • A later reply confirms that the participant found the answers they were looking for but does not detail the solution process.
  • There is a suggestion from another participant encouraging sharing of solutions to benefit others in the forum.
  • One participant shares their calculations, stating they found a maximum passenger mass of 616 kg and calculated the number of passengers as 8 based on an average mass of 75 kg.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the correctness of the calculations, as one participant questions their results while another claims to have found the answers. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the accuracy of the calculations presented.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the application of formulas and the interpretation of the problem, but specific limitations or assumptions are not explicitly stated.

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A passenger lift had mass 500 kg. The breaking tension of the cable is 12000N. The max acceleration of the lift is 0.75 m/s^2
a) if the lift travels at its max acceleration, calculate the max mass of the passengers:
1)when the lift is accelerating upwards
2) when the lift is accelerating downwards
b) taking the average mass of a person to be 75 kg, what is the max number of passengers that should be allowed to travel in the lift?
 
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Shah 72 said:
A passenger lift had mass 500 kg. The breaking tension of the cable is 12000N. The max acceleration of the lift is 0.75 m/s^2
a) if the lift travels at its max acceleration, calculate the max mass of the passengers:
1)when the lift is accelerating upwards
2) when the lift is accelerating downwards
b) taking the average mass of a person to be 75 kg, what is the max number of passengers that should be allowed to travel in the lift?

What have you accomplished with this one?
 
skeeter said:
What have you accomplished with this one?
So it should be T- mass of lift× g- mass of passengers ×g= ( M+m) ×a
Iam not getting the right ans that is mentioned in the textbook
 
skeeter said:
What have you accomplished with this
Thank you so much! I got the answers
 
Are you going to share your solution so others may benefit?

That’s a big part of being a member of MHB. Get some help … give some help.
 
skeeter said:
Are you going to share your solution so others may benefit?

That’s a big part of being a member of MHB. Get some help … give some help.
Ofcourse.
So I did T- Mg-mg=(M+m)×a
I got M=616kg
b) T- Mg-mg= -(M+m)×a
m=797 kg
2) I did 616/75= 8 people
 

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