Mechanism Needed for a Compact, High-Torque Transradial Prosthetic Arm

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design of a transradial prosthetic arm featuring a mechanical claw for gripping. Participants are exploring mechanisms to maintain torque during gripping actions, with a focus on compact and lightweight solutions suitable for physical activities.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the goal of achieving a pinching force of around 8 Nm using a low-torque, high-speed motor combined with a 100:1 gearbox.
  • Suggestions for mechanisms include cam mechanisms, zero-degree ratchet systems, hydraulic or pneumatic pistons, and utilizing the intrinsic torque of the motor and gearbox.
  • Another participant questions the term "transradial" and requests clarification and drawings of the design concepts.
  • A participant shares a rough drawing of the design, emphasizing the need for independent movement of both sides of the claw and the desire for zero backlash.
  • Concerns are raised about achieving zero backlash, with a request for more detailed drawings to understand the proposed solution better.
  • One participant proposes using a hard compliant material for the jaws to mitigate backlash, suggesting polyurethane as a potential option, and recommends using a spring mechanism to hold the grippers closed if zero backlash is essential.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of achieving zero backlash, with some suggesting alternative approaches to address this challenge. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best mechanism to use.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the most effective mechanism for maintaining torque and achieving zero backlash. There are also limitations in the provided drawings and descriptions that may affect the understanding of the proposed designs.

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Hello everyone,

I'm collaborating with a group of engineering friends to develop a transradial prosthetic arm that uses a mechanical claw for gripping. This prosthetic is designed for physical activities, demanding both strength and precision. We're aiming for a pinching force of around 8 Nm (~70 lb-in) and are using a low-torque, high-speed motor (e.g., ElectroCraft RPX22) combined with a 100:1 gearbox.

Our challenge is maintaining this torque during the gripping action, which could last from several seconds up to a few minutes. The mechanism must ensure zero backlash during pinching for safe use.

We're exploring various mechanisms to hold the claws in place effectively:

  • Cam mechanisms
  • Zero-degree ratchet systems for zero backlash
  • Locking via hydraulic or pneumatic pistons
  • Utilizing the intrinsic torque of the motor and gearbox

Additionally, the mechanism needs to be compact and lightweight since it is a prosthetic.

We're looking for suggestions. What mechanism would you recommend for maintaining the claw's position under torque in a compact and lightweight design? We're open to ideas, experiences, and any suggestions you might have.

Thank you in advance for your input and ideas!
 
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KavehSanaei said:
to develop a transradial prosthetic arm that uses a mechanical claw for gripping.
I'm not familiar with the term "transradial" in the context of a prosthetic arm. Are you referring to the radius bone, or is there some other meaning? Thanks.

And can you upload some drawings of your concepts so far? Use the "Attach files" link below the Edit window to upload a PDF or JPEG image of your work
 
Below I have attached a rough drawing of what we are trying to design. Both sides of the claw need to move independently. Two motors move each side of the claw independently. The gearboxes drive a cable and pully system that articulates the claws. We want the calws to have zero backlash once they are in position.

I also included an example picture of a transradial (below the elbow) prosthetic. It being transradial is not relevant to the mechanism itself.
prototype claw.png
transradial.jpg
 
KavehSanaei said:
Both sides of the claw need to move independently. Two motors move each side of the claw independently. The gearboxes drive a cable and pully system that articulates the claws. We want the calws to have zero backlash once they are in position.
How are you going to achieve zero backlash in this? Can you post a more detailed drawing?
 
Instead of Zero backlash, which is rather difficult in the real world, I suggest a rather hard compliant material covering the jaws/grippers -- maybe a semi-hard polyurethane. Polyurethane came to mind because it is not attacked by most chemicals and can be formulated and cast in about any hardness and shape you want.

This could be chosen for maybe a millimeter of compression at maximum force.

[edit/afterthought] If you Really require Zero Backlash, use a spring on the grippers to hold the grippers closed and use the motor to open them.

Cheers,
Tom

p.s. please keep us updated on your progress/solutions, we like to learn too!
 
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