Mel Gibson Fiasco: Shocking Audio & Movie Legacy

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The discussion revolves around the recent controversy involving Mel Gibson, focusing on leaked audio recordings that reportedly capture him in a heated argument. Participants explore the implications of his comments, the nature of his relationships, and the legality of the recordings, while expressing varied personal reactions to Gibson's behavior and its impact on their enjoyment of his films.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express shock at Gibson's comments and question whether they can continue to enjoy his films if the tapes are genuine.
  • Others argue that they view actors as service providers and separate their personal lives from their professional work, despite acknowledging inconsistencies in this philosophy.
  • There is a discussion about the focus on Gibson's use of a racial slur, with some participants suggesting that the broader context of his verbal abuse should also be considered.
  • Some participants speculate on the mental state of both Gibson and his girlfriend, suggesting that both may need help and questioning the motives behind the recording.
  • Concerns are raised about the legality of the recording, with participants discussing the implications of consent and the motivations for making the tape public.
  • There are mixed feelings about the age difference in Gibson's relationship, with some expressing disapproval of older men dating younger women.
  • Several participants comment on the absurdity of the situation, with some finding humor in the drama while others express discomfort.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on how to interpret Gibson's actions or the implications of the recordings. There are competing views on the significance of the audio, the legality of its release, and the nature of Gibson's relationships.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the possibility that the tapes could be edited or faked, but this claim lacks credibility among others. The discussion also touches on the complexities of personal relationships and public personas, highlighting the emotional and psychological factors at play.

  • #61
Newai said:
Yes, parents need to teach their kids how to behave. But one has little to do with the other.

So. With what you've provided here, it's now okay for a celebrity to spew out the N word and other hateful speech publicly? Parent's job is to say, "Don't do what the actor in the movie I took you to see did." Are you serious?

Parents choice to bring their child to a movie. I grew up hearing bad words, and watching people do bad things, my parents just told me that that is not the right way to live my life, and I am a respectable adult now.

I didn't go see Rambo, and then go home and shoot a bunch of people, so why should it be any different with language.
 
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  • #62
I agree. You can't always be there when bad inflences are around, and trying to eliminate all of them isn't possible.

Wouldn't it be better to teach your kids the fundamentals of critical thinking and decision making ratherthan try to micromanage the world to be a giant baby cushion?
 
  • #63
KalamMekhar said:
Parents choice to bring their child to a movie. I grew up hearing bad words, and watching people do bad things, my parents just told me that that is not the right way to live my life, and I am a respectable adult now.

I didn't go see Rambo, and then go home and shoot a bunch of people, so why should it be any different with language.
"Parents choice to bring their child to a movie." --That's not what I wrote and that's not what I'm talking about. So let's start back with clarifying your position: Do you think it's acceptable for a celebrity to spew out hate speech in public (particularly in front of one's child)?
 
  • #64
KalamMekhar said:
why should I care if someone says cool person or I hate Jews? Why should anyone care.
There is a famous quote attributed to Martin Niemöller and found in various forms on the net. Here is a typical example:

Martin Niemöller said:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak for me.
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007392"
 
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  • #65
wow. That was good.
 
  • #66
Regardless of how you feel you have to admire Mel's ability to stay angry through the whole thing. He doesn't let up one bit, get tired, or grow apathetic, he's got stamina!
 
  • #68
He really seems like a fairly common abusive type, with the interesting addition of being a bigot and famous. Beyond that, he doesn't strike me as falling to far from the tree of his father.
 
  • #69
Pythagorean said:
Leave Mel alone.

thank you :biggrin: