Mel Gibson film about Judah Maccabee.

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The discussion centers around Mel Gibson's upcoming film about the Maccabean revolt, which occurred around 150 BC. Participants explore the historical context of the Maccabees, their significance in Jewish history, and the implications of Gibson's involvement in the project, considering his past controversies and the potential reception by the Jewish community.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the Maccabees were a group that fought against the Seleucid Empire and established the Hasmonean Dynasty, which they describe as having been particularly bad rulers.
  • There is mention of the significance of the Maccabean revolt in Jewish history, particularly the cleansing of the Temple and the celebration of Hanukkah.
  • Some express skepticism about Gibson's motivations, suggesting he may be trying to regain favor with the Jewish community after past controversies, while others doubt this and propose he may simply view the film as an opportunity for a grand narrative akin to "Braveheart."
  • Participants express mixed feelings about Gibson's suitability for the project, with some questioning whether he is the right person to tell this story, while others acknowledge his clout in Hollywood as a factor in the film's production.
  • Some Jewish leaders reportedly express unhappiness regarding Gibson's involvement in the film.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on Gibson's motivations or suitability for the film, with multiple competing views remaining regarding his intentions and the potential reception of the film.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference Gibson's past controversies, including his DUI and comments that have been perceived as anti-Semitic, which may influence the discussion around his new film project.

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Apparently Mel Gibson is making a movie about the Maccabean revolt around 150 BC. Mel is a Roman Catholic and two books of their Bible are Maccabees 1 and 2. There is a 3 and 4 in the Greek Catholic Bible. None of the books are found in the Jewish and Protestant Bibles, but used to be. The Maccabees were a band of brothers who fought to liberate Judea from its Selucid masters. They won and so instituted the Hasmonean Dynasty, particularly bad rulers. In the process they cleansed the Temple of Greek idols and religious practices. The holiday of Hannukah celebrates the rededication of the Temple at that time.

I suppose he intends to ingratiate himself to the Jewish community that he insulted during an arrest for drunk driving a few years back. It might work too. It depends on how much Selucid blood he can splatter on the screen. I've done a back of the napkin estimate of 100 forgiving Jews per fluid ounce of blood.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-10/mel-gibson-working-on-jewish-warrior-film/2879640"
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
Apparently Mel Gibson is making a movie about the Maccabean revolt around 150 BC. Mel is a Roman Catholic and two books of their Bible are Maccabees 1 and 2. There is a 3 and 4 in the Greek Catholic Bible. None of the books are found in the Jewish and Protestant Bibles, but used to be. The Maccabees were a band of brothers who fought to liberate Judea from its Selucid masters. They won and so instituted the Hasmonean Dynasty, particularly bad rulers. In the process they cleansed the Temple of Greek idols and religious practices. The holiday of Hannukah celebrates the rededication of the Temple at that time.

I suppose he intends to ingratiate himself to the Jewish community that he insulted during an arrest for drunk driving a few years back. It might work too. It depends on how much Selucid blood he can splatter on the screen. I've done a back of the napkin estimate of 100 forgiving Jews per fluid ounce of blood.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-10/mel-gibson-working-on-jewish-warrior-film/2879640"
LOL. Not to mention he needs money and he's burned his hard core Christian bridges with the DUI, adultery, child out of wedlock... looks like he's hoping Jewish people are more forgiving.
 
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There are some Jewish leaders who are extremely unhappy about this, according to the articles I've seen.

I'm kind of conflicted about it. I'm not Jewish, but still I wonder if Gibson is the right man for the job. On the other hand, I really would like to see a movie about the Maccabees, and who else in Hollywood but Gibson wants to make this movie AND has enough clout to get it made?

Where's Spielberg when you need him?
 
Jimmy Snyder said:
I suppose he intends to ingratiate himself to the Jewish community that he insulted during an arrest for drunk driving a few years back.
I doubt it. I bet he merely envisions it as Braveheart in the Desert.
 
zoobyshoe said:
I doubt it. I bet he merely envisions it as Braveheart in the Desert.
:-p