Metamaterial Electromagnetic Cloak at Microwave Frequencies

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The discussion revolves around the concept of metamaterials and their application in creating electromagnetic cloaks at microwave frequencies. Participants explore the implications of negative refractive index and the potential for invisibility technology, referencing recent advancements and theoretical approaches.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express excitement about the advancements in metamaterials, particularly in the context of invisibility technology demonstrated by Duke University.
  • One participant questions the workings of negative refractive index, suggesting a need for deeper understanding beyond basic explanations.
  • Another participant attempts to clarify negative refraction through an analogy involving a pen in water, but acknowledges that this does not explain the underlying mechanisms.
  • Some participants share links to additional resources, including articles and theoretical approaches to metamaterials.
  • There is a note that the technology discussed is distinct from other forms of invisibility technology, indicating a variety of approaches in the field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding metamaterials and negative refraction, with some seeking clarification while others provide differing explanations. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the mechanisms of negative refraction or the implications for visible light.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include a lack of detailed explanations of the mechanisms behind negative refraction and the specific structural requirements for effective metamaterials. The discussion also reflects differing levels of familiarity with the topic among participants.

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If you happen to see microwaves...

Scientists Take Step Toward Invisibility

...team at Duke University have demonstrated a technology that could be a small step in the right misdirection.

Metamaterial Electromagnetic Cloak at Microwave Frequencies (Science)
David R. Smith's Web Site The system, a set of concentric copper circles on fiberglass board, deflects electromagnetic waves of a specific frequency that strike it, without much of the scattering and absorption that make reflections and shadows.

A result is that the microwaves slide around the structure like water flowing around a smooth rock in a stream, said David R. Smith, a professor of electrical and computer engineering at Duke and an author of the paper published today in the journal Science. [continued]
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/20/s...&en=cd2cdec26f18ae3a&ei=5094&partner=homepage

See also:
http://www.ee.duke.edu/~drsmith/cloaking.html
 
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Ooooh, Sweet :D
 
Yeah I must say this is extremely interesting.
Now I must google for morei nformation on these 'metamaterials.'
 
Octelcogopod is this like you're first post outside the philosophy forums? :-pEdit: Okay I looked up metamaterials too.. how the hell does Negative Refractive index work? Maybe my understanding of the concept is juvenile or something but would that mean light passes through the substance -more- easily then the substance it was in before it?
 
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How negative refraction works?

If you put a pen in a glass of water, you will see it appears bent due to positive refraction of the water. If water had negative refraction you would see the pen bending in the opposite direction than that of positive refraction.
 
That doesn't explain how they work, that's just explaining what they do, and I knew that part already.
 
Gelsamel Epsilon said:
That doesn't explain how they work, that's just explaining what they do, and I knew that part already.
Here's an introduction.

http://www.ee.duke.edu/~drsmith/neg_ref_home.htm

There is a pretty good Wiki article on metamaterials, too, with additional links. If they ever hope to extend the effect to visible light, they will have to control the structure of the metamaterials to much finer degrees.
 
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http://www.popsci.com/popsci/technology/b0b13ddbf6fed010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html
 
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Note that this is very different techology from that in the original post.
 
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http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~ulf/invisibility.html

For a theorist's approach.
 
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