Metric System vs. Standard System

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The discussion centers around the potential for the United States to adopt the metric system, highlighting the challenges and resistance to change among Americans. Participants express frustration with the illogical nature of the imperial system, citing difficulties in unit conversions and the lack of standardization. There's a consensus that teaching the metric system in schools could foster acceptance among future generations. Concerns about the costs associated with transitioning to metric are prevalent, with many believing that the financial burden would deter government action. Some participants share their experiences of using both systems and the confusion that arises, particularly in practical applications like cooking or aviation. The conversation also touches on the idea of alternative numbering systems, such as base 12 or 16, but acknowledges the impracticality of such changes. Overall, the sentiment leans towards a desire for standardization and simplification in measurements, yet recognizes the deep-rooted habits and resistance to change in American society.
  • #31
Do you know what they call a Quarter Pounder in France?

:smile:

The Rev
 
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  • #32
I agree with the green people here. I personally see no need to change the current US system, and I do not see it changing anytime soon.
 
  • #33
Why be content with base 10 or 16 or 8... let's have something competely insane. How about base pi, or base i, or (for the sake of things) base 0.9999999 ... :-p

Mess with peoples heads and not get anything done by proposing base infinity. :smile: :smile: :biggrin:
 
  • #34
motai said:
Why be content with base 10 or 16 or 8... let's have something competely insane. How about base pi, or base i, or (for the sake of things) base 0.9999999 ... :-p

Heh, yeah. I think changing the base of our numbering system goes into that huge category of things that sound smart and cool to us nerds, but makes no practical sense whatsoever. Sort of like switching everyone to "natural" units.
 
  • #35
SpaceTiger said:
Sort of like switching everyone to "natural" units.
You mean like feet, inches, and yards?
 
  • #36
SpaceTiger said:
Heh, yeah. I think changing the base of our numbering system goes into that huge category of things that sound smart and cool to us nerds, but makes no practical sense whatsoever. Sort of like switching everyone to "natural" units.
wow someone finaly said practical, that's what i was thinking all along, might sound good to us but no one suggested an apraoch that would be most practical to the general public.
and 1 country changing is less expensive and less work then over 100 countries to change... my 2 cents
 
  • #37
ShawnD said:
You mean like feet, inches, and yards?

I mean the ones based on the various Planck scales. Here's a sample website:

http://superstringtheory.com/unitsa.html
 
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  • #38
" 'E could 'a drawed me off a pint ", grumbled the old man as he settled down behind a glass. " A 'alf litre ain't enough. It don't satisfy. And a 'ole litre's too much. It starts my bladder running. Let alone the price."

And that is all I have to say on the matter. ;-p
 
  • #39
SpaceTiger said:
I mean the ones based on the various Planck scales. Here's a sample website:

http://superstringtheory.com/unitsa.html

That is probably the stupidest thing I've ever seen. No foreseeable gain from doing it.
 
  • #40
The Rev said:
Do you know what they call a Quarter Pounder in France?

Yeah, a Royal Cheese.

http://www.mcdonalds.fr
 
  • #41
brewnog said:
Yeah, a Royal Cheese.

http://www.mcdonalds.fr
I think you missed the joke. It's a quote from Pulp Fiction.
 
  • #42
ShawnD said:
I think you missed the joke. It's a quote from Pulp Fiction.

Nah, I got it :smile: , I just couldn't remember what it was called. Curiosity got the better of me...
 
  • #43
I started getting used to imperial units by playing a British wargame (warhammer). The conversion between inches and cm's isn't hard, but it's easier when it comes natural, which takes practice.

What really disturbes me is that certain units depend on what they are used for. I mean, a stone is a different wheight depending on whether it is meat or liquid you are measuring? :confused: Talk about weird...
 
  • #44
Dimitri Terryn said:
What really disturbes me is that certain units depend on what they are used for. I mean, a stone is a different wheight depending on whether it is meat or liquid you are measuring? :confused: Talk about weird...

Avoirdupois ounces (~28g) are for most things, but Troy ounces (~31g) are for gems. A gallon in the UK is 4.54609L. A gallon of dry stuff in the US is 4.404884L. A gallon of wet stuff in the US is 3.785412L. How does anybody keep track of this stuff?
 
  • #45
In the US, 16 ounces equals one pound, if it is a solid (weight), but 16 ounces equals 1 pint if it is a liquid (volume), but it would not weigh a pound. So ounces can be either.
 
  • #46
I think we should use BCD.
 
  • #47
Evo said:
In the US, 16 ounces equals one pound, if it is a solid (weight), but 16 ounces equals 1 pint if it is a liquid (volume), but it would not weigh a pound. So ounces can be either.
Almost. A pint of water weights about .96 pounds. It's probably as close a relationship as you can get, since the units of measure for liquid volume and weight were developed separately.

Being a base 10 system makes the metric system easier to use, but the biggest advantage is correlation between different units of measure. It's easy to convert cubic centimeters to milliliters to liters, volume to mass, etc.

Ivan Seeking said:
I think we should use BCD.
Only for digital. For mechanical and analog devices, Grey Code works much better.
 

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