Minimum safe distance from a radioactive source

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The discussion revolves around a radioactive decay problem involving the potassium isotope 4219K, which decays into the calcium isotope 4220Ca, emitting gamma rays and beta particles. Participants explore the implications of radiation dose rates and safety distances from the source, as well as the calculations related to half-lives and the number of subatomic particles in the resulting calcium atom.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants attempt to calculate the minimum safe distance from the radioactive source based on dose rates and discuss the implications of beta decay on the number of electrons in the resulting calcium atom. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of dose rates, the calculation of time until safety is achieved, and the assumptions made in the problem statement.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants provide calculations and reasoning for the minimum distance and time required for safety, while others question the assumptions and definitions related to safe dose rates. There is no explicit consensus on the correct answers, but guidance is being offered regarding the decay process and dose rate calculations.

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Participants note potential missing information in the problem statement, particularly regarding definitions of safe dose rates and standard values that may be relevant to the calculations. The safety regulations are cited, but there is some confusion about the application of these values in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


The potassium isotope 4219K has a half-life of 12 hr, and disintegrates with the emission of a γ-ray to form the calcium isotope 4220Ca. What other radiation besides γ-rays must be emitted? How many electrons, protons, and neutrons are there in an atom of the calcium isotope?

The amount of radiation received in unit time by a person working near a radioactive source, commonly called the dose rate, is measured in rem hr-1. The safety regulations forbid dose rates in excess of 7.5 * 10-4 rem hr-1.The γ-ray dose rate from the 4219K source is found to be 3 * 10-3 rem hr-1 at a distance of 1 m. What is the minimum distance from this source at which it is safe to work?

After how long will it be safe to work at a distance of 1 m from this source?

Answers: 2.0 m; 24 hours.

2. The attempt at a solution
4219K → 4220Ca + 0-1β + 00γ.

4220Ca: electrons = protons = 20, neutrons = 22.

Minimum distance is (3 * 10-3) / (7.5 * 10-4) = 4. So 1 m from the source is 4 times more dangerous than it should be. So the distance should be increased 4 times, so the safe distance is 4 m. Why the answer is 2 m?

I used A = A0 e- λ t to find time. The dose should decrease from 3 * 10-3 rem hr-1 to 7.5 * 10-4 rem hr-1. So: 7.5 * 10-4 = 3 * 10-3 e- (ln 2 / 12) t → t = 4.3 hours. Why not 24? I also calculated everything in seconds, not hours, still same result when I change the final answer to seconds.

Why the distance is wrong and how to get the correct time?
 
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moenste said:
2. The attempt at a solution
4219K → 4220Ca + 0-1β + 00γ.
It's a beta decay process, which produces ##\beta^-## particles (electrons), as you say. In the beta-minus decay, an anti-neutrino is also produced.
4220Ca: electrons = protons = 20, neutrons = 22.
The initial potassium isotope has 19 electrons. A beta particle (i.e. one more electron) is created in the decay process and is emitted from the system as ionising radiation. But the resulting calcium atom that is left over has only a changed nucleus and not a changed number of electrons surrounding that nucleus. So, the Calcium atom only has 19 electrons after the decay process.

Minimum distance is (3 * 10-3) / (7.5 * 10-4) = 4. So 1 m from the source is 4 times more dangerous than it should be. So the distance should be increased 4 times, so the safe distance is 4 m. Why the answer is 2 m?
The intensity of radiation from a point source drops off with the inverse square of the distance from the source.

I used A = A0 e- λ t to find time. The dose should decrease from 3 * 10-3 rem hr-1 to 7.5 * 10-4 rem hr-1.
The figure ##7.5\times 10^{-4}## doesn't appear in the problem statement that you've quoted. If it is correct, then your solution method is correct. However, I calculate the time as 24 hours, as required, using your numbers.
 
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I don't see any definition for a safe dose rate. Is there information missing from the problem statement, or are there standard values from a table that you need to know?
 
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James R said:
It's a beta decay process, which produces ##\beta^-## particles (electrons), as you say. In the beta-minus decay, an anti-neutrino is also produced.

The initial potassium isotope has 19 electrons. A beta particle (i.e. one more electron) is created in the decay process and is emitted from the system as ionising radiation. But the resulting calcium atom that is left over has only a changed nucleus and not a changed number of electrons surrounding that nucleus. So, the Calcium atom only has 19 electrons after the decay process.The intensity of radiation from a point source drops off with the inverse square of the distance from the source.The figure ##7.5\times 10^{-4}## doesn't appear in the problem statement that you've quoted. If it is correct, then your solution method is correct. However, I calculate the time as 24 hours, as required, using your numbers.
gneill said:
I don't see any definition for a safe dose rate. Is there information missing from the problem statement, or are there standard values from a table that you need to know?
Very sorry, somehow I skipped an entire sentence while making the problem and then got distracted to check the text for mistakes,
moenste said:
The safety regulations forbid dose rates in excess of 7.5 * 10-4 rem hr-1.
 
A quick check:

##\frac{7.5\times 10^{-4}}{3.0\times 10^{-3}}=\frac{1}{4}## so we need a dose rate that is one-quarter of its initial value. After 1 half-life the rate will be half of what it was initially, and after 2 half-lives it will be 1/4, so we need 2 half lives, or 24 hours.
 
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James R said:
It's a beta decay process, which produces ##\beta^-## particles (electrons), as you say. In the beta-minus decay, an anti-neutrino is also produced.

The initial potassium isotope has 19 electrons. A beta particle (i.e. one more electron) is created in the decay process and is emitted from the system as ionising radiation. But the resulting calcium atom that is left over has only a changed nucleus and not a changed number of electrons surrounding that nucleus. So, the Calcium atom only has 19 electrons after the decay process.
Got it.

4219K → 4220Ca + 0-1β + 00γ.

4220Ca: electrons = 19 (since we need to look at K, which has 19 electrons), protons = 20, neutrons = 22.
James R said:
The intensity of radiation from a point source drops off with the inverse square of the distance from the source.
Not sure whether I understand this part. Is there a formula?
James R said:
The figure ##7.5\times 10^{-4}## doesn't appear in the problem statement that you've quoted. If it is correct, then your solution method is correct. However, I calculate the time as 24 hours, as required, using your numbers.
Yes, I re-calculated and got 24 hours. Had some corrections in my notes so probably calculated it wrong : ).
 
James R said:
The intensity of radiation from a point source drops off with the inverse square of the distance from the source.
Could you please elaborate on this part? This is the last thing I don't understand quite well in this problem : ).
 

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